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==Comment by JonBuck== | |||
I really like the way this is going so far. The idea that in order to look relatively normal a man (well, a Vader anyway) will have to become female, would be a very hard decision to make. --[[User:JonBuck|Buck]] 21:49, 16 December 2007 (EST) | I really like the way this is going so far. The idea that in order to look relatively normal a man (well, a Vader anyway) will have to become female, would be a very hard decision to make. --[[User:JonBuck|Buck]] 21:49, 16 December 2007 (EST) | ||
==Comment by Bryan== | |||
Great story, looking forward to seeing how it concludes. It's neat seeing sub-settings develop within Xanadu like this. Perhaps if they survive this current encounter the 501st could organize an Ewok brigade as specialized anti-Femtrooper forces. :) [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 01:31, 20 December 2007 (EST) | Great story, looking forward to seeing how it concludes. It's neat seeing sub-settings develop within Xanadu like this. Perhaps if they survive this current encounter the 501st could organize an Ewok brigade as specialized anti-Femtrooper forces. :) [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 01:31, 20 December 2007 (EST) | ||
==Images== | |||
Came across a picture that seems relevant to this story today... [http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?attachment_id=17547 Sexy Storm Trooper] or [http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/10/16/sexy-storm-trooper-with-darth-vader/sexy-storm-trooper-darth-vaderjpg/ Sexy Storm Trooper with Vader] -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 16:41, 24 December 2007 (EST) (second link: [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 18:06, 24 December 2007 (EST)) | Came across a picture that seems relevant to this story today... [http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?attachment_id=17547 Sexy Storm Trooper] or [http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2007/10/16/sexy-storm-trooper-with-darth-vader/sexy-storm-trooper-darth-vaderjpg/ Sexy Storm Trooper with Vader] -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 16:41, 24 December 2007 (EST) (second link: [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 18:06, 24 December 2007 (EST)) | ||
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...Yep, that's what Femtroopers look like. More or less. I came across Bryan's first link there and just had to write a story about it. It's been a lot of fun, but I'm hoping that I can finish soon, before it becomes a saga. Here I have something I wrote when I couldn't sleep- it's not a story, I don't know what else to do with it. | ...Yep, that's what Femtroopers look like. More or less. I came across Bryan's first link there and just had to write a story about it. It's been a lot of fun, but I'm hoping that I can finish soon, before it becomes a saga. Here I have something I wrote when I couldn't sleep- it's not a story, I don't know what else to do with it. | ||
==Sleepless writing== | |||
Threats: Many of these overlap. Numerous threats incorporate aspects of each category without quite fitting, such as the Femtroopers, or else fit into several slots, such as SHODAN and her machinations. | Threats: Many of these overlap. Numerous threats incorporate aspects of each category without quite fitting, such as the Femtroopers, or else fit into several slots, such as SHODAN and her machinations. | ||
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Maybe I need to make a "common characters" page. Food for thought, anyway. - [[User:Joysweeper|Joysweeper]] 29 December 2007 | Maybe I need to make a "common characters" page. Food for thought, anyway. - [[User:Joysweeper|Joysweeper]] 29 December 2007 | ||
==Comment by Xodiac== | |||
I really rather like the concept, but I'm rather surprised you didn't have the Femtroopers capture James and we get to see a conversion. And not just because I enjoy TG stories, though I certainly do. But you're pointing out a lot of questions, and then not answering them. While this is a great in-depth look at the characters and the slightly desperate struggle against encroaching Femtrooping of the 501st, it suffers from this lack. It would have made for an interesting story to have the main character Femtrooper'd, and we see what those disadvantages that officer wondered about are, not to mention see the process by which they change people into one of their own. And maybe we could watch James try to bring down the Femtroopers from within their own ranks. As it is, this isn't so much a story as a long firefight with some character issues added in. The idea is good but the potential is mostly unused, I think. -- [[User:Xodiac|Xodiac]] 18:30, 30 December 2007 (EST) | I really rather like the concept, but I'm rather surprised you didn't have the Femtroopers capture James and we get to see a conversion. And not just because I enjoy TG stories, though I certainly do. But you're pointing out a lot of questions, and then not answering them. While this is a great in-depth look at the characters and the slightly desperate struggle against encroaching Femtrooping of the 501st, it suffers from this lack. It would have made for an interesting story to have the main character Femtrooper'd, and we see what those disadvantages that officer wondered about are, not to mention see the process by which they change people into one of their own. And maybe we could watch James try to bring down the Femtroopers from within their own ranks. As it is, this isn't so much a story as a long firefight with some character issues added in. The idea is good but the potential is mostly unused, I think. -- [[User:Xodiac|Xodiac]] 18:30, 30 December 2007 (EST) | ||
:Well, there are plenty of other characters of the 501st (and other armored individuals in general) who have been captured previously. Perhaps a separate story could be written from one of their perspectives, if it doesn't quite fit in with this one? [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 03:21, 31 December 2007 (EST) | |||
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Comment by JonBuck
I really like the way this is going so far. The idea that in order to look relatively normal a man (well, a Vader anyway) will have to become female, would be a very hard decision to make. --Buck 21:49, 16 December 2007 (EST)
Comment by Bryan
Great story, looking forward to seeing how it concludes. It's neat seeing sub-settings develop within Xanadu like this. Perhaps if they survive this current encounter the 501st could organize an Ewok brigade as specialized anti-Femtrooper forces. :) Bryan 01:31, 20 December 2007 (EST)
Images
Came across a picture that seems relevant to this story today... Sexy Storm Trooper or Sexy Storm Trooper with Vader -- ShadowWolf 16:41, 24 December 2007 (EST) (second link: ShadowWolf 18:06, 24 December 2007 (EST))
Couple more: [1] [2] [3] [4] (that last one there has a full metric buttload of other Stormtroopers-in-everyday-life photos, the femtroopers are mixed in about two thirds of the way down the page). This link is supposedly a video about femtroopers, but it wasn't available when I clicked through: [5] Bryan 18:11, 24 December 2007 (EST)
Comments? I haven't even finished yet! Twentyone Twentyeight was not originally part of this story's plot- she just showed up when I mentioned a Vader who'd been abducted. The 501st doesn't really get along well with Ewoks, but the suggestion has been passed on.
...Yep, that's what Femtroopers look like. More or less. I came across Bryan's first link there and just had to write a story about it. It's been a lot of fun, but I'm hoping that I can finish soon, before it becomes a saga. Here I have something I wrote when I couldn't sleep- it's not a story, I don't know what else to do with it.
Sleepless writing
Threats: Many of these overlap. Numerous threats incorporate aspects of each category without quite fitting, such as the Femtroopers, or else fit into several slots, such as SHODAN and her machinations.
Bombs. Sometimes a mechanical explosive device, sometimes organic. May be a rocket or jet whose ignition immolates everything on the ground, may be a device or creature or being which releases neurotoxin or some other deadly gas. Sometimes a bomber. Usually but not always random in purpose. May be connected to a Mastermind or a Cult. Examples: Bomberman, the Airplane Girls, GStu # 5. Recommended action: Clear the area before attempting to defuse the situation. It may be advisable to wait for someone more invulnerable.
Alterators: Individuals seeking to forcefully shape-change others. Occasionally fits “Mad Scientist” archetype. May be a Mastermind or working beneath one, may lead or work beneath a Cult. Sometimes the source of Plaguers, Rampagers, Minions. May be seeking to complete a Summoner ritual/treatment in order to make self into a Deity. Plan may begin and end with “Change everyone”, may be more complicated. Examples: SHODAN, Lord Ted, Dracula, MSue #315(“Tearvault”). Recommended action: Clear the area. Take out the Alterator from a distance; usually his or her death or incapacitation leads to a reversion of subjects.
Plaguers. Infectious and shape-changing. Destroys or suppresses minds of victims. Little leadership; exists only to spread and assimilate. Sometimes connected or related to Masterminds or Alterators, but usually not under their control. Examples: Zombies(all kinds), wild weres, “gray goo” nanobots. Recommended action: STAMP IT OUT. Violence is justified, few will complain. Stepping in early saves a lot of work later on.
Cults. A group united under a common purpose, generally sinister and active. Somewhat similar to Plaguers, spreading and recruiting new members. Harder to justify violence against. Victims may be subjects for Alterators, may seem to still be themselves, may have joined willingly or unwillingly, may be recoverable. Spreads, usually has a leader who may or may not be a Mastermind, often Summoners. Examples: SHODAN, the Fighting Fanboys, Rampant Catgirls, Dracula’s Brides. Recommended action: Observe. Trust in the Force.
Mastermind: Instigators of various forms of mayhem. Often behind Plagues and Rampagers and Bombs, occasionally Predators. Usually has Minions. May or may not be or command Alterators. Sometimes heads a Cult. Often has vague and nebulous goals such as “take over the world,” “become a god”, or “cover the Earth in darkness”, may be a Summoner. Examples: SHODAN, several incarnations of Lex Luthor, Dracula. Recommended action: Varies depending on circumstance. Trust the Force.
Rampagers: Individual goes insane or alternately is an unleashed beast or cybernetic creation, begins random wanton destruction. Individuals are often but not always shape-changed. Often related to Masterminds or Deities; similar to Minions but not under control. May be content to smash scenery, may be after random bystanders. Examples: Hulk and Hulk-Derivatives, Kool-Aid Man, beings afflicted by strains of Psycho Serum. Recommended action: Clear the area of bystanders, stay back. Restraint doesn’t really work. Better to wait it out and summon appropriate help.
Minions: Often mechanical or shapeshifted bystanders, but may be complicit. Usually directed by a Mastermind but occasionally are part of a Cult, similar to Rampagers but with a specific goal. Goal is usually to break or steal a specific item, sometimes to kidnap or deliver a message. May be alone, in a group, or near a Mastermind. Examples: Fully-transformed cyborgs belonging to SHODAN’s cult, Doombots, Dracula’s Brides. Recommended action: Usually best to thwart goal of Minions. Restraint is good; however, Minions often escape custody. Note: if there is only one, it is highly dangerous and caution is strongly advised. If there are many, the Law of Conservation of Ninjitsu means they may be overpowered by squad’s efforts. Trust the Force.
Predators. Simplest of the lot. One being seeking to prey on others for a variety of reasons. May be an inept Mastermind, attempting to kill food, a thief, a rapist, a hitman or assassin… Somewhat like a Rampager, but after individuals. Difficult to detect normally, but Trouble Magnet Phlebotinium spurs them into action where and when they may be caught. Examples: More than can be easily counted. Recommended action: Stop the Predator. Restraint is preferable.
Summoners: Individual or individuals attempting to either grant themselves or another vast power or call forth something nasty. Trouble Magnet Phlebotinium means that patrols often encounter these during important rituals. Often related to Cults; by the time it gets this bad, intervention is a must. Sacrifices may be involved. Sometimes the goal or part of the goal of an Alterator or a Mastermind. Examples: MSue #2. Recommended action: Trust in the Force. Disrupting the wrong way or time may have catastrophic results. Save the sacrifice if possible. Sometimes it is necessary to let ritual proceed and only attack after completion; however, this may result in a Deity.
Deity: Some one or some thing with power far greater than enjoyed by members of the 501st. Often takes the form of a small child, an attractively feminine male, or a huge and hideous monster; however there are many, many others. You’ll know it when you see it. Often a very strong Rampager; may be a Xanadu native or the result of a Summoner’s efforts. Examples: Anything from DBZ, Bizarro Superman, Lobo, Sepiroth, MSue #2, etc. Recommended action: AVOID. Clear out bystanders if possible, but get out of the way. Can’t do anything to hurt it, even if it has a weak point. Something with a similar level of ability will be along soon and will stop it. Very rare, fortunately
Maybe I need to make a "common characters" page. Food for thought, anyway. - Joysweeper 29 December 2007
Comment by Xodiac
I really rather like the concept, but I'm rather surprised you didn't have the Femtroopers capture James and we get to see a conversion. And not just because I enjoy TG stories, though I certainly do. But you're pointing out a lot of questions, and then not answering them. While this is a great in-depth look at the characters and the slightly desperate struggle against encroaching Femtrooping of the 501st, it suffers from this lack. It would have made for an interesting story to have the main character Femtrooper'd, and we see what those disadvantages that officer wondered about are, not to mention see the process by which they change people into one of their own. And maybe we could watch James try to bring down the Femtroopers from within their own ranks. As it is, this isn't so much a story as a long firefight with some character issues added in. The idea is good but the potential is mostly unused, I think. -- Xodiac 18:30, 30 December 2007 (EST)
- Well, there are plenty of other characters of the 501st (and other armored individuals in general) who have been captured previously. Perhaps a separate story could be written from one of their perspectives, if it doesn't quite fit in with this one? Bryan 03:21, 31 December 2007 (EST)