User talk:JonBuck/Changing America
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Blog Comments?
Just floating an idea for the other Paradise authors. Since much of this story is written through blog posts by the characters, is there any interest in submitting comments I can use? --Buck 03:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'm guessing some of these comments should be rude, since Serena mentions that she was "outed" by the commentors. After all, the anonymity provided by the Internet does make people more daring and willing to flame, so I guess that it would be logical to have a couple making a lot of insults, sexual innuendo and the such. And also, with the "flame war" that began on the blog, I guess quite some commentors would be interested only in arguing and insulting each other, so I imagine a number of the comments may not even be related to the topic in question.
- Not all the comments would be mindless insults, of course, since some of the commentors should be still be, y'know, logical and mature to an extent. So a few might be discussing the topic, some others would be engaged in flaming combat, and others will be trying to break up the fight, right? And the comments don't have to have any part in the storyline, right?
If the above is correct, I can try dropping a bunch of comments for you! If you don't mind? Just give me the green light, and I'll do my very best! Oh, and great story, by the way! It's awesome. :)--Drake 18:15, 10 June 2009
- Go ahead and write down your comment ideas here. If I like 'em I'll make them official. :) --Buck 06:56, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Followup: Thinking about it, "canon" comments should add to the story in some way. Otherwise I doubt people will read them. --Buck 20:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Got it. I guess it makes sense that the comments should add to the story a little. They don't need to be as long as Robotech Master's, right?--Drake
- There do exist people who post long comments on blogs, you know. :P —Robotech Master 04:25, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I know, I'm sometimes one of those people myself. But most of the time, people just drop a short comment like "Nice one!" or something, because they usually don't think too deep into whatever they just read, or because they're just in a hurry. And can someone help get rid of the wierd boxes around the comments? It's ugly. :) --Drake
- Having a variety of commenters is good, honestly. --Buck 04:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Post One: Introductions (Comments)
This one is the part where Serena gets "outed" by commentors. Comments are short and succint, like most are on blogs. If this is ok, JonBuck, then I'll drop more comments for other sections.
User: SilverFox
March 15, 2010, 10:12pm
User: AsianLeopard
less furs 'round here. And the climate's a lot easier on us. Guess you just have to bear
with the cold...
March 15, 2010, 11:23pm
User: Furry1337
interesting!
March 16, 2010, 1:07am
User: AwsimAlpha
transgendered, right?
March 16, 2010, 9:02am
User: xXFreakyDogXx
March 16, 2010, 9:26am
User: LemmingsREVOLT
This blog is such a rip-off, then. All that bullshit about "female
perspective", it's crap. You've spent your whole life as a male, now
just 'cos you got tits you say you're full of female perspective? MY ASS!
I'll go somewhere else with real perspective!
March 16, 2010, 9:45am
User: AwsimAlpha
woman's body.
March 16, 2010, 10:23am
User: AsianLeopard
I'm sure she'll surprise us.
March 16, 2010, 11:47am
User: LemmingsREVOLT
Fuck that you asshole she's not even a real woman how the hell
will she give any "female perspective" you dick?
March 16, 2010, 2:35pm
User: AsianLeopard
woman yourself? It's objective and undefinable because
everyone has their own opinion, so what makes you
think you can say she's not a real woman?
March 16, 2010, 2:48pm
User: LemmingsREVOLT
you. I'm heading over to some other blog. This
one's so gay.
March 16, 2010, 4:10pm
User: SilverFox
March 16, 2010, 3:52pm
User: S3XYFur
references>
User: H00wlzz
<This link has been removed by an administrator>
March 17, 2010, 4:53pm
User: LurkingInShadowz
March 17, 2010, 5:21pm
User: AsianLeopard
March 17, 2010, 6:02pm
User: SilverFox
March 17, 2010, 9:32pm
New Bodies, New Twists
User: RabbitInDanger
I reference the video link provided by H00wlzz in a comment for a previous article. While I have no desire to humiliate the people featured in it, I would like to draw attention to the way Serena slashed her friend with her claws. Yes, I'm aware that it was accidental. But instincts, combined with rising emotions, do not make a good combo. How many more people will get injured because of a careless slip on a Changed person's part? This shows that claws should at least be blunted, if not clipped, for the safety of others.
March 21, 2010, 6:12pm
User: JeanWolf
As for gangs getting killed or hurt by claws and teeth: what's the difference? If they didn't have claws and teeth, they'd be using guns. If some people misuse their natural weapons, how is this our fault? Come on, not all lions or tigers or wolves walk around killing people. Anyway, martial arts experts could still misuse their skills and beat other people up. But that doesn't mean everyone practising judo is evil, does it? Likewise, not everyone with claws is about to kill some herbivore. And as for accidents occurring, I expect that maybe Furgonomics is going to do something to prevent accidental slashing. Or maybe as more people change, the Changed will get more and more careful with their claws. Still, I don't see a need for every single Changed person out there to clip off their claws.
March 21, 2010, 1:17am
User: BunnyToo
March 21, 2010, 6:17am
User: RabbitInDanger
User: BrookeBadger
Most people simply can't grasp that about one percent of us have more than just getting fur to deal with. Maybe you know what I'm talking about, but I'm damned sure you don't. Pray to God you don't have to deal with it yourself.
March 21, 2010, 10:17am
User: RabbitInDanger
March 21, 2010, 2:31pm
User: WildOne314
I was going to agree with RabbitInDanger here, but I noticed JeanWolf (and BunnyToo) have some major points. You're right, JeanWolf, to a degree. Yes, no one in their right mind would carelessly injure someone with new body parts designed for injury, and yes, no one would beat up people randomly either.
However, I feel that there is a risk of slipping into some wishful thinking, because when one Changes, claws and fur aren't the only things a person will get. I know it's becoming a bit of a buzzword now, but hormones will definitely come with the package, like it or not. I'm not saying people will go total rage on someone just because. Well, I kind of am.
This is why I said before that BunnyToo is right as well. I heard about an instance at a California college a few years ago where in a fall party, a moose thought someone was making advances to his girlfriend, and was this close to killing the guy. Bear in mind that fall is rut season, so... yeah. Not to mention the countless other examples, even a North Carolinian tiger who accidentally killed her classmate at age 9 over an argument.
I'm sure everyone will hate me for saying it, and I'll probably never be allowed to come here again, but someone has to say it: you are not humans. This is a complete new era of people where animalistic instinct can carry a whole new meaning. The only thing I want everyone reading this to know is that problems like this should not be ignored, and the Change should not be taken too lightly. I guess all this wouldn't matter in 2020, or thereabouts. Who knows? By then, we probably have already thought ways of confronting the issue, as JeanWolf hopes so. Either way, it's going to be a brand new era for all of us.
March 22, 2010, 12:49pm
--Drake, 20:28, 19 June 2009
--Buck 07:38, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
--Drake, 18:40, 23 June 2009 (Sorry for taking so long to respond. Spent a lot of time handling my new story.)
Sivle (talk) 00:47, 23 May 2017 (CDT)
Serena's "Suck It"
User: JustAnotherVixen
Seriously, I think this is something people are going to have to think a lot about. Everybody should be thinking about it, because they never know if one day they're going to wake up and find they're playing for the other team. Isn't that scary?
Anyway, it's not as if this is the crude surgical method people have had to use up 'til now, that sorta makes you look or feel like the other sex. This is the real deal. You get your genes scrambled but good, and a fully-functional bod with all the right hormones and natural cycles included. If that doesn't make you the gender you end up, what does?
I'd like to think it'll bring about greater understanding to have people out there who can write how-to-relate guides from personal experience on both sides. But people being people, they'll probably just screw it up again.
—Long-time vixen, first-time posterMarch 21, 9:07 pm
—Robotech Master 03:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
The Envious Alan
User: JustAnotherVixen
Of course you're being manipulated. We all are. Some people have been since as long ago as 1987.
Think about it. There's no possible cause that could explain the Change. No disease, no nanite grey goo, no genetic mutation, nothing. Maybe some of those could explain the form change, but what about the intelligent nature of the "reality distortion field" around us? The way it first kept anyone from seeing anything weird, and now it selectively edits everything associated with us? When "John Doe" suddenly wakes up Jane and a doe, and not only has all his ID cards and all photos of him everywhere changed to female but suddenly has a wardrobe full of girly clothes to match?
Something is messing with reality—editing reality. There are all kinds of theories floating around about what or who, but I don't think we'll ever really know. I would just like to point out that one philosopher thinks there is a 20% chance we're living in a simulation instead of real life. So if we are, maybe whoever's running it is poking the anthill.
It does seem like whoever's doing it at least isn't randomly cruel. If we're being forced "out of the closet" by the veil slipping away, it seems to be doing its best to smooth things over. Your furry comrades might have been hassled in Detroit, but they weren't chased by a mob with torches and pitchforks. Something's overriding humanity's tendency to hate and fear what they don't understand.
From my perspective, that can only be a good thing.
—A vixen fixin' to get her licks in
March 22, 9:17 am
(Perhaps it might be too blatant, but on the other hand it's so obvious that it has to be said out in the open sometime... —Robotech Master 20:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC))
A Human Perspective
User: Human4Now
March 27, 7:09 pm
Style/Template work
There ya' go. Template:CA comment is good to go - designed to be easy to use. Basics is {{CA comment|<username>|<text>|<date>[|<reply comment as template>]}} - in other words, for a comment by 'Drake' that has no reply you'd do {{CA comment|Drake|This is an example|August 17, 2010 23:45:50 UTC}} and if there was a reply to it you'd do: {{CA comment|Drake|This is an example|August 17, 2010 23:45:50 UTC|{{CA comment|Drake|Replying to myself as an example|August 17, 2010 23:46:30 UTC}}}}. The first of those examples would create the following:
User: Drake
August 17, 2010 23:45:50 UTC
And the second of those examples would create:
User: Drake
August 17, 2010 23:45:50 UTC
User: Drake
August 17, 2010 23:46:30 UTC
Comments can be nested in each other to any depth you'd like. Wish I could have made it simpler, but there are limitations to what the template system is capable of. Sorry. -- ShadowWolf 14:58, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I've been notified that there are some problems with it - that arise from the template system itself. For the longer comments, you'll want to actually copy how the 'Envious Allen' one was done. -- ShadowWolf 16:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
That looks really good, Shadow. --Buck 18:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- I based it, somewhat, on how Slashdot does their comments. I still think it could use some work, but after I got the current version done I decided to hold off on making any other changes to it. -- ShadowWolf 18:18, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- It looks like a "Thank you" is in order, even if it's late, ShadowWolf. The template's great, if not a little too complicated. Still, you have my thanks for creating it and modifying everything. It must have been hard work. You're the best! :) --Drake 20:29, 19 June 2009