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== Happy birthday ==
  
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…from an old fogey who is, oh my god, double your age… —[[User:Robotech Master|Robotech Master]] 20:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
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:…and from an old fogey who is close to double your age… -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 21:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
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::Thanks! --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]]
  
You can set up a personal homepage for yourself at your root user page, which you can find by clicking on your user name at the top of the page. Use your user page however you see fit; most authors generally list their stories there, along with a bit of biographical information about themselves and perhaps some links to other websites. See [[Help:User pages]].
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...And a late one from me, who is just about your age.--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
  
If you have any questions, you can either click the edit link for this page and write it here or you can follow the link in my signature to my own home page and leave it in the talk page over there. You can find a list of Shifti's administrators at [[Shifti:Administrators]]. Once you've got your bearings, feel free to delete this welcome message from your user talk page. [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 00:47, 3 February 2009 (EST)
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== Case Brief ==
  
== The Day the Universe Changed ==
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<span style="color: #006400;">The Google on the Internets has spoken. Here are some case brief how to's that I could find:
  
Not ''quite'' the first Winds of Change story, it's actually the second (The first that wasn't by the setting's original author). Jon Sleeper wrote the first (see [[User:JonBuck#Winds_of_Change]] for a link to it).
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[http://www.cjed.com/brief.htm http://www.cjed.com/brief.htm]
  
Nice to see another "favorites" list, BTW. :) [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 19:47, 7 February 2009 (EST)
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[http://www.howtodothings.com/careers/a2850-how-to-write-a-brief-for-law-school.html http://www.howtodothings.com/careers/a2850-how-to-write-a-brief-for-law-school.html]
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[http://lawschool.about.com/od/casebriefs/ht/howtocasebriefs.htm http://lawschool.about.com/od/casebriefs/ht/howtocasebriefs.htm]
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It seemed to be an interesting idea, I'd hate to see it die before even being born. </span> --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
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:Thank you very much. I'll get started right away. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]]
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==Writing Non-Short Stories==
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Hey there, Lloyd, Wolfy here. With regards to your message on TSA-talk about writing short stories...I think I'll try to provide some advice. Instead of thinking of a specific scene, like those in short stories, try working out the befores and the afters. Describe more. Have more conversation. Add a few useful scenes here and there to display the personalities of your characters. Like what [[User:Rabbit|Rabbit]] said, just let the story move with its flow. That always happens to me, and I end up with one huge story. The great thing about writing a long story is that it gives you time to slowly but surely develop each character, flesh out the storyline, and give the story the emotional depth that most short stories cannot get.
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The sucky thing is that because they're long, it's going to take a long time. If you have a lot of ideas, you can try working them through one by one. If it's a long story it'll take a long time to write, so be patient. Also like what Rabbit said, don't stop, because if you stop for a day, and then another, and then another...well, you end up not writing anything, and you lose interest. But if you lose interest in the one you're halfway through, don't force yourself to finish it. For me, I just start another one. The interest will return at some point.
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Like mentioned earlier, long stories give the writer an opportunity to fully and completely display the personality of his characters. Plan out cool scenes for the story. Write down the storyline somewhere so you don't forget, but don't follow your sketch completely. I spent weeks thinking about the storyline of [[User:WolfyDrake95/Price in Blood|Price in Blood]], and it slowly evolved into the storyline that I'm writing now. Be ready to change the storyline. It's not cast in iron; after all, you are the writer. Forcing yourself to write something you don't like only screws up the story more.
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If you're not sure about writing a full story by yourself, get a friend to collab with you. That way, mutual encouragement will make sure you don't lose interest and give up halfway like I did to [[User:WolfyDrake95/Last Man Standing|Last Man Standing]].
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But in the end, the most important thing is to have fun. Don't push yourself. ''Relax'', and make sure you ''enjoy'' writing. &mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:19, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
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{{Green|This is some of the best advice I've seen in a while, and it is entirely true of [[Rebuilding]]. I worked out a very rough outline, then just forced myself to start writing it. From there, the words just fell onto the page. Every night I'd spout out more content, and suddenly I had a fairly long story. So long that I had to break it into 2-3 parts. I've kinda fallen off of writing it at the moment, as I head out to college, but I should start back up again soon enough, after my Collab with wolfy is under wraps.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:44, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
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I've never managed to finish a long piece&mdash;writers block always attacks&mdash;but the way I wrote what exists of "The Hero Factor" was to just let the ideas flow. But once I reached the part where it was time to start heading for the end of things writers block attacked. So I'd suggest keeping notes and/or a clear plan so that even if writers block does hit you you can continue writing, even if those parts are utter crap. The only other hint I have is to not worry about word-count or length while writing&mdash;just keep writing and let the story end where it wants to end. Oddly enough my "only other hint" there is the most important one. If you artificially extend a story it will be visible to a chunk of your audience and if you cut off a story too early that will likely be noticed by the entirety of the audience. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 16:01, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
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:Thanks a bunch for all the advice. Sadly my timing is actually kinda crummy since I have to go away to university soon, but I'm definitely going to get started as soon as I can! --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd Brunnel]] 20:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
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== Spam ? ==
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I've gotten at least one e-mail a day from one "Jonas Belford" using an e-mail address with your name in it. Those have happened to be spam - I'd suggest you do a thorough cleaning of your system. Otherwise you'll just have a zombie system that is spamming everyone in your address book. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 22:38, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

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Happy birthday

…from an old fogey who is, oh my god, double your age… —Robotech Master 20:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

…and from an old fogey who is close to double your age… -- ShadowWolf 21:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! --Lloyd

...And a late one from me, who is just about your age.--Concerned Reader 14:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Case Brief

The Google on the Internets has spoken. Here are some case brief how to's that I could find:

http://www.cjed.com/brief.htm

http://www.howtodothings.com/careers/a2850-how-to-write-a-brief-for-law-school.html

http://lawschool.about.com/od/casebriefs/ht/howtocasebriefs.htm

It seemed to be an interesting idea, I'd hate to see it die before even being born. --Concerned Reader 16:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I'll get started right away. --Lloyd

Writing Non-Short Stories

Hey there, Lloyd, Wolfy here. With regards to your message on TSA-talk about writing short stories...I think I'll try to provide some advice. Instead of thinking of a specific scene, like those in short stories, try working out the befores and the afters. Describe more. Have more conversation. Add a few useful scenes here and there to display the personalities of your characters. Like what Rabbit said, just let the story move with its flow. That always happens to me, and I end up with one huge story. The great thing about writing a long story is that it gives you time to slowly but surely develop each character, flesh out the storyline, and give the story the emotional depth that most short stories cannot get.

The sucky thing is that because they're long, it's going to take a long time. If you have a lot of ideas, you can try working them through one by one. If it's a long story it'll take a long time to write, so be patient. Also like what Rabbit said, don't stop, because if you stop for a day, and then another, and then another...well, you end up not writing anything, and you lose interest. But if you lose interest in the one you're halfway through, don't force yourself to finish it. For me, I just start another one. The interest will return at some point.

Like mentioned earlier, long stories give the writer an opportunity to fully and completely display the personality of his characters. Plan out cool scenes for the story. Write down the storyline somewhere so you don't forget, but don't follow your sketch completely. I spent weeks thinking about the storyline of Price in Blood, and it slowly evolved into the storyline that I'm writing now. Be ready to change the storyline. It's not cast in iron; after all, you are the writer. Forcing yourself to write something you don't like only screws up the story more.

If you're not sure about writing a full story by yourself, get a friend to collab with you. That way, mutual encouragement will make sure you don't lose interest and give up halfway like I did to Last Man Standing.

But in the end, the most important thing is to have fun. Don't push yourself. Relax, and make sure you enjoy writing. —Drake 14:19, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

This is some of the best advice I've seen in a while, and it is entirely true of Rebuilding. I worked out a very rough outline, then just forced myself to start writing it. From there, the words just fell onto the page. Every night I'd spout out more content, and suddenly I had a fairly long story. So long that I had to break it into 2-3 parts. I've kinda fallen off of writing it at the moment, as I head out to college, but I should start back up again soon enough, after my Collab with wolfy is under wraps. --Concerned Reader 14:44, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

I've never managed to finish a long piece—writers block always attacks—but the way I wrote what exists of "The Hero Factor" was to just let the ideas flow. But once I reached the part where it was time to start heading for the end of things writers block attacked. So I'd suggest keeping notes and/or a clear plan so that even if writers block does hit you you can continue writing, even if those parts are utter crap. The only other hint I have is to not worry about word-count or length while writing—just keep writing and let the story end where it wants to end. Oddly enough my "only other hint" there is the most important one. If you artificially extend a story it will be visible to a chunk of your audience and if you cut off a story too early that will likely be noticed by the entirety of the audience. -- ShadowWolf 16:01, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch for all the advice. Sadly my timing is actually kinda crummy since I have to go away to university soon, but I'm definitely going to get started as soon as I can! --Lloyd Brunnel 20:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Spam ?

I've gotten at least one e-mail a day from one "Jonas Belford" using an e-mail address with your name in it. Those have happened to be spam - I'd suggest you do a thorough cleaning of your system. Otherwise you'll just have a zombie system that is spamming everyone in your address book. -- ShadowWolf 22:38, 12 March 2011 (UTC)