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how do you delete a page that has no content? I've had to modify a title of a story page and removed it's content, but the title still appears on my author page.

Please sign with the ~~~~ - but generally you have to remove all content and then kill any links to it you've made. That'll "orphan" it and then an admin can go and do the actual delete. ShadowWolf 15:43, 3 October 2007 (EDT)
Page deleted, Oberon. (Recent Edits is a wonderful tool!) - in the future, though, please sign all entries on a talk page using the ~~~~ specifier - it's what gives the nifty user link and timestamp. (and in requests for deletion, could you please include the page name ?) ShadowWolf 15:48, 3 October 2007 (EDT)

Sitenotice text

Where did you put the text for the donation sitenotice? Normally it'd be at MediaWiki:Sitenotice, but I'm assuming since it's not there you've inserted it into the source code somewhere. Bryan 20:46, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Never mind, I found it - MonoBook.php, right? I should move it out of that and into sitenotice, it won't appear for anyone who's using a different skin otherwise. Bryan 21:01, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Didn't know about the Sitenotice bit, so yeah, I did a bit of hacking and dumped it straight into the code from the primary skin. I actually had thought about dumping it directly into the Skin driver, but decided not to. — ShadowWolf 21:08, 3 January 2008 (EST)
There, fixed up. I pulled the code from the source and added a version to the Mediawiki:Sitenotice. "A Version" because I had to use the same custom tag I created for Shifti:Site support to do the button. (PayPal kinda requires it be a form with a crapload of hidden fields) — ShadowWolf 21:16, 3 January 2008 (EST)
Heh. I was just working on that myself. Good to know I was on the right track. :) Bryan 21:20, 3 January 2008 (EST)
This is odd. It appears that integral.org is in the spam protection filter, I can't save Main Page now. Bryan 21:37, 3 January 2008 (EST)
Not in any of the spamfilters I installed. It's not in the central MediaWiki list or in the site-specific list. I'll look deeper. — ShadowWolf 22:00, 3 January 2008 (EST)
Special:Version doesn't have any spam-blockers besides SpamBlacklist and none of its lists have "integral" anywhere in them. So I don't know what the problem could be... Everything I've installed is hacked to not bug people that are in the Admin group about ANYTHING, so I'm at a loss as to what the problem could be. — ShadowWolf 22:04, 3 January 2008 (EST)
Well, whatever the problem was, it seems to have passed. I should have saved a copy of the error message but I suppose it's moot if it doesn't come back. BTW, I hope you don't mind the little tweaks I made to the sitenotice banner. Bryan 23:38, 3 January 2008 (EST)
Nah, it works. And I've reverted the changes I made, since it wasn't the cause of Felix's problem. He saw the Captcha, but apparently either 1) Didn't know what it was or 2) Couldn't read it. So I've just gone and given the "Author" permissions group a Captcha exception. — ShadowWolf 23:49, 3 January 2008 (EST)

What do you think of the notion of putting a progress bar in the donation request, as demonstrated in Shifti:Sandbox? Wikipedia does it that way, and it might give people more incentive to donate in order to get rid of the banner. :) Bryan 01:23, 4 January 2008 (EST)

That's pretty nifty. Maybe have the bar in red, though :) ShadowWolf 01:30, 4 January 2008 (EST)
There, added a color parameter. Red's a bit garish, though, maybe something a bit more pastel? Bryan 01:43, 4 January 2008 (EST)
I hate that banner!! It offends me, I must destroy it by donating! *snicker* :)

--Devin 23:59, 4 January 2008 (EST)

Wolfy, how do I become an author? I already have a story written.

ClydesdaleTF--ClydesdaleTF 20:27, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Easy, you wait for an admin to notice the story insert and hit the button :) -- ShadowWolf 21:44, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll be sure to write more soon! How'd you like my first one? ClydesdaleTF 01:30, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Broken Discussion pages and Captcha errors

Not sure what's going on. When I click on the Discussion link on a page that doesn't have a discussion, it takes me direct to that page's edit frame (NOT the Discussion page), and I seem to have full edit rights on it. Something seems to have gone wonky along the way.

Pre-existing Talk pages seem to work fine (as evidenced here), though when I was trying to post it gave me an "out of captcha" error (When I tried to post it on the Current Events page that is.).

Oh and for the TF Types, you may want to add "Plant" (for TF's that are not animal based, but not quite Dryad based for the mythical category), and "Inanimate" (and maybe even Robotization or however you want to classify it).

I'm not quite sure if inanimate would be good enough as a catchall for a "living material' type TF (think X-Men's Colossus, and Ice Man, who turn into living steel and living ice respectively), or if we might want another type for that as well.

--Jetfire 13:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm working on this, but apparently the 'title' parameter isn't being properly set. When it's a red-link PHP is getting a URL that looks like 'index.php?title=XXX?title=XXX_talk&action=edit&redlink=1' and it's seeing that first 'title=' and not the second one. I'm trying to figure out how to solve that.
--ShadowWolf 15:26, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Turned out to have several causes, all related to various problems with a code upgrade and several other problems that cropped up. Since I have yet to see this problem re-occur, I'm going to call it 'fixed'. -- ShadowWolf 20:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Story submission captcha?

I just went to post a new story and after I hit the 'save page' button, it took me to an edit screen that had:

    Your edit includes new external links. To help protect against automated spam, please enter the words that appear below in the box

at the top. I looked and looked again and couldn't find any external links in my story. In fact there was no markup at all once I removed all the tab-indention on the paragraphs.

I'm all for automated systems blocking automated systems, but this sort of struck me as odd. -- Leasara 08:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

The regular expressions might have triggered on a non-link URL. But I cannot be certain, as this is the first report I've seen of it. (and sorry for the lag in the response) -- ShadowWolf 20:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, as long as I'm bugging you guys, any chance of getting an inverted color scheme skin? Dark text on a light background seems to be more difficult for me to read for any length of time than light text on a dark background. -- Leasara 08:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

The new 'shiftimin' skin took a while to get fully functional, but you could, likely, use "user CSS" to get the same result. Give me a bit of time and I'll see if I can get a "map" together for the CSS behind the "monobook" skin so you can override it easily. Alternatively you could poke at the CSS yourself, but...
There is a page giving a minimal explanation of CSS at Help:Custom css and we have a page open to user additions about CSS hacks at Custom CSS Hacks. I've been planning to do up a page explaining the various classes of the primary 'MonoBook' skin for a while. Guess it's about time to actually get to work on that. (and again, sorry for the lag in the response) -- ShadowWolf 20:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Question

...from a nubcake guy. Just asking, is a story allowed to be set in a video game universe (Halo: w00t!)? 'Cos I wanna write a TF story set in there, but I'm not too sure if this is allowed on Shifti. Hope it's yes, 'cos it's already in progress. Thanks! --Drake

We have no restrictions on fan-fiction, but if we receive a take-down notice it will be removed. (I run the server and would be the one facing the legal actions - so I will not fight a DMCA notice unless I am certain it is invalid) -- ShadowWolf 13:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Great! Well, I'm pretty sure Bungie, the copyright holder, encourages fan fic, so I think it's ok...Note "I think". I'm not sure how they'd react to TF fan fic. Thanks for confirming (and once again for the fave I can't tell you how much that means to me)! :) --Drake
Most companies are open to fan-fic, because it helps with the popularity of their product. And you got the "fav" because I saw real promise in the original and in your willingness to take constructive criticism. Every other author in my "new authors to watch" section has shown the same promise, though they haven't all been available to take the constructive criticism that could be offered. -- ShadowWolf 20:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi there! This is the noob writer, Drake, again, here for a fresh wave of bother-the-administrator. Sorry to bother you, but here I am. Bothering you. Anyway, I was hoping you could help critique my new story, Finding Himself, which I uploaded a couple of days ago. I got comments from Guvnor of Space and Concerned Reader, but I thought I'd ask for your opinion since you were the only one who seemed actually care about my first, and admittedly not-so-good, story. I do hope you can drop a critique and a comment to help me improve.

The above was an email that I sent to you but received no reply for. And also, about the fanfic that this section was initially about: can I upload screenshots? Halo features a Theatre mode in which one can take screenshots of players or NPCs, so I think I could use screenshots to illustrate characters, etc. Anyway, thanks for reading so far! :) --Drake, 23:43, 27 June 2009

Hey there, ShadowWolf, it's Drake again. Hope you could look through my new story, in case you haven't noticed. Yea, it's not very good, and it took a strange direction halfway through writing (becoming all wierd and sappy), but I hope it would merit, at least, a critic. Of course, if you're too busy, it's okay, I'm fine with that. I'm pretty sure critiqueing new writers isn't exactly the only thing you do ;).
And by the way, if creating new info tags were possible, a "Critique Requested" one might be more effective in garnering critiques than the "Comment" tag that's provided. And in regards to my Halo-fanfic, is it okay if I put screenshots from in-game to illustrate? It'd be useful for people to understand what I'm saying, since Halo isn't as well known as Star Wars. —Drake 12:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Sadly I'm going to have to decline a critique on that story. I have tried reading it and found that it did not interest me, sorry.
As to the images... I am unsure about this, as there is content in the texture-maps and such that will wind up as part of the image that are copyright MS/Bungie. However... This would appear to be a case covered by the "Fair Use" exceptions, so unless a lawyer that uses Shifti can answer otherwise, go ahead and upload.
The 'critique requested' template itself should be easy. I'll have to see about that at some point today. -- ShadowWolf 16:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
All right, I understand if you don't want to critique. I do know that this isn't exactly my best story...I suppose every writer has times when he writes bad. Just that I get these times more often. I sorta knew it was already bad, but I guess I needed someone to tell me that it was lousy, right to my face. Ah well.
As for the pictures, thanks! And for the template, another thanks. You're one hell of an admin! --Drake 04:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
It's not that it isn't a good story, Drake. The problem is that when I tried reading it I was not able to get more than a few paragraphs in before I said "this is depressing"—I do not read anything that I can say that about because I suffer from bipolar disorder. -- ShadowWolf 11:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Um...then I guess I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. And yeah, I guess I shouldn't write so many depressing stories; it certainly gets a little boring after a while, and I suppose you're right in that when people read stories, they probably won't like those that make them all depressed. I should put a warning on that story one of these days! Anyway, I think I should start on my more normal stories soon.
I don't know what to say about that last bit of what you said because I'm just a kid, and I'm not very smart and I'm terrified that I'll say something insensitive or insulting or whatever. I do that a lot of times, and the people on the receiving end tend to take offense. Sorry.
On the upside, I'm thinking of writing a PaW story soon. It's a cool story setting, the Pig and Whistle. Looks like a good setting for assassinations!
Still, thanks for taking the time to clarify the issue. I suddenly feel happy. :) —Drake 13:02, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't offend easily—and if you ever do, you'll know it. Depressing stories can be good, too, but I stay away from them for medical reasons—bipolar disorder means I have massive mood swings and reading depressing stuff just feeds into that. There have been several times when I've read something really depressing and it had a very bad impact on me.
On another note… You are a lot more intelligent and mature than most of the "kids" these days (IMNSHO). Most "kids" these days have almost no idea how to put a sentence together and you are one of the few that I have run into that can take criticism.
As to a PaW story… The setting was created, as it says in the description and rules, as a "reboot" of the "Tales from the Blind Pig" setting. Within the last couple of years the "Blind Pig" setting has had numerous arguments over what is and is not "canon" between authors who have seen the setting grow and contributed and people just finding the setting. Because the creator has left it behind it has become something of a "lawless waste" with no real controls and people changing it from what the creator said is actually the reality of the setting. To solve this and make the setting much more internally consistent I asked around and a small group formed to generate the new setting. There is a lot more to the setting than has been revealed or is likely to be openly revealed to anyone anytime soon.
And we tried to define only what was needed to give the setting its own identity so that the people actually interested in writing a story set there could create the setting itself. We only ask that you not set the story outside of the NAR/RoT/Quebec area unless you are actually from that other area. The reason for that is simply that we wish to allow people from those other regions to have control over what, exactly, happened to their regions after the collapse. -- ShadowWolf 13:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Well Wolfy is from Singapore, so he could open up that side of the world. On a side note, all 14-19 year olds I know on the internet have trouble with basic grammar and spelling when talking normally, so I wouldn't quite call your writing juvenile. --Concerned Reader 14:29, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, actually Singapore is pretty boring. Nothing's really cool or fun here (maybe I'm just used to it?), and society feels very...suppressed. There's no space for individuality. If you try to be yourself, you get mocked and stuff (like when my friends discovered that I was on Shifti). Bad story material. And as for deciding what happens to my region...I dunno. Best I don't, I have terrible imagination and my mind only circles around video games that I play.
If I might refer you to the talk page of Letting Go, you'll find the rough plan of this PaW story.
As for my writing, I won't deny that I'm very, very proud of it (my downfall), which is why I hurt a lot sometimes when criticized without knowing why (thus why I seemed so upset when I replied to ShadowWolf's declination). I also have a somewhat existant superiority complex (I got really jealous when ShadowWolf commented that Rabbit was impressed by CR's Rebuilding. Puberty? I dunno.)
Even though I know I'm not that good a writer, I like to think that I write depressing stories because of my "painful experiences in life". Actually, it's because I read a lot of Michael Bard's work (both the sad ones and the happy ones). Both of which are awesome, by the way. I'll admit that I'm a fan of his. <3
Oh, and thanks for the compliments, you two. I can feel my ego swelling already. :) —Drake 14:54, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

I hope I'm doing this right and putting it in the right place. If not, please accept my apology. If you have the time, I would like for you to take a look at the stories I've posted and offer some criticism. I've read enough of your material to trust your judgement. Also could you suggest others who might be able to help me to improve my work? Thank you Alveric

Just a quick question. I'm thinking about posting my stories on TSAT. Do you know where I can find some detailed instuctions on how to do that? I'm afraid my tech-savvy is on the low side. Thanks Alveric

With TSAT being a defunct e-zine, I'm assuming you're referring to the TSA-Talk mailing list. For that, well... First sign up for the mailing list, then the following advice will help:

  1. Make sure that your post is plain-text - copy to Notepad first and check for any characters that have disappeared. A number of us do not use Windows and the UTF-16 that windows uses for things like "smart quotes" becomes mojibake for us.
  2. If it contains adult material or things not safe for work, make sure to include the NSFW tag
  3. Don't expect comments and don't be so attached to your work that negative comments or criticism of any kind causes an adverse reaction
  4. Check spelling and grammar - the list is populated by quite a number of authors - some of which have been published. We do like to see people actually making an effort towards making their writings legible and understandable to others.

--ShadowWolf 19:04, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm been on the mailing list for a couple of months. I'll procede cautiously.

Alveric

Just made my first attempts to send a story to TSATalk. I sent it as an attachment, then thought attachments might not work, so I sent it the second time in the body of the message. I hope I didn't screw it up too bad.

Alveric

I noticed that on the 'All Authors' page, I'm listed as User:Alveric rather than just Alveric. Is there some way I could correct that? Thanks --Alveric 17:09, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Fixed. Seems you just had the category set and the actual template we use for setting the stuff wasn't. -- ShadowWolf 17:16, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! --Alveric 18:02, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

RSS Feed?

Not sure if there's much you can do about this or if I'm using it wrong or expecting the wrong things. But I've signed up for the RSS feed on Shifti, and I'm not only getting the new changes soon after they occur, but I also get a bunch of changes that were already reported to me, often multiple times. --Jetfire 11:46, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

That's the way the RSS feed works. It works similar to how the 'Recent Changes' page works by default. -- ShadowWolf 16:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
True but it seems to be picking up changes it has already reported that haven't had any actual new changes done. For example, when Bryan was adding/updating the separator graphics, the RSS feed repeated it twice for each change he did, and that seems to happen a lot.
--Jetfire 17:54, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I'd look closer - there were, in most cases, two files uploaded/updated - and yes, there is a bug somewhere in the system that is double-logging some events. I haven't been able to track that one down, though. It's about time to take a look and see if there is a new version of the code available, however, so I can see if an upgrade fixes the problem. (Most notably it is the new-user stuff that gets double-logged, but I have no idea how this is impacting the RSS feed) -- ShadowWolf 18:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I meant that as a general example thouhg; not that in particular.
Another example, I just got an RSS update now. I've been watching the feeds and had no recent updates from Shifti since this morning whence I'd gotten Jon's latest update and a few hours. The update I JUST got says there are 8 new changes, including Jon's After Hours addition again, Wolfy's New world addition and 4 entries for the RSS Feed discussion. (Despite this being the 4th entry now). All of the entries have a time of 4:03PM ADT. --Jetfire 19:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Odd... And I'm not really that knowledgeable about the MediaWiki code-base (yes, I can hack on it, but...) I have a feeling that the problem lies in how the system works. I think that it might be compiling a list of all changes within a certain period and sending it out. And if it isn't keeping a proper time-stamp on the items, that is a violation of the RSS spec, IIRC - since it is then pushing out duplicates without a way for readers to determine that with any degree of certainty. I'll sign up to the RSS feed myself and see if I can track the problem. -- ShadowWolf 19:39, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Okay - I've got my client signed up to the RSS feed for the Recent changes page. Let's see what this edit does... -- ShadowWolf 22:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Now I've seen the problem and it sucks. That one previous edit led to a major flood of '31 new edits' in my feed reader. Looks like I was right - it isn't properly date-tagging the entries. -- ShadowWolf 22:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Looked at the raw XML of the feed and it doesn't look like there is an error in it - though there might be. Let me go take a look at the RSS specs to see if I can figure out what is missing and/or not being set properly. -- ShadowWolf 22:39, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Ooooh... I think I just found the cause. Apparently the feed is claiming to be RSS 2.0 but it isn't putting a stable <guid/> tag on any of the entries. This tag is the method by which most RSS readers decide whether an item is new or not. The feed here does not have them. This is probably an oversight on the part of the person that wrote the code, but I cannot say. I'm going to go check Wikipedia to see if they have it there - because if they don't then the only reason that feeds of Wikipedia aren't getting overwhelmed is because of the volume of edits there. -- ShadowWolf 22:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Changed it to include the link-url as a guid - it should be genuinely unique to a specific page revision. Lets see if this fixes the problem... -- ShadowWolf 23:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Okay - I give up (for now) - because that last edit showed up with a massive number of others and the added <guid> tag doesn't seem to have helped any. Unless, of course, those <guid/> tags need a bit to start showing up... I really don't know. Might be time for me to look into cleaning out the cache table of the database. -- ShadowWolf 23:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
And that looks like it did do it after all. Bug report being marked CLOSED/RESOLVED. -- ShadowWolf 23:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Bug not completely resolved. On restart my RSS client has shown a singularly massive flood of repeated messages. This does not make sense to me, as it was not doing this during the testing yesterday - and I am willing to bet it will not show such action today. However it might be that the text I am using to generate the data for the GUID tag is not as stable as I once thought - this bothers me and makes me think I might have to go much deeper into the code for changes. Perhaps as deep as altering the 'feed item' class so that it requires the actual ID of the revision so that said ID can be used for the GUID. --ShadowWolf 14:39, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Sadly... It looks like utilizing the Date of the edit might be the only way to uniquely identify them - in combination with the page title, that is. However, I shall not be making those changes at this time. What I shall be doing is finding a way to interact with another developer so that I can be certain this will permanently and fully squash this bug. -- ShadowWolf 14:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Not sure what's going on, but the problem seems to be cropping up again. I've gotten RSS feeds telling me of changes that I've already gotten before (and before and before)... --Jetfire 17:52, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Has to do with how the URL's are generated. Since I'm using the URL as the GUID, it looks like there is a periodic shift in them. I have zero clue how to fix it, because I'd have to come up with something that is genuinely unique as an identifier, and I can't think of anything that would work there. (at least, nothing that is actually available to the feed generator) -- ShadowWolf 18:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

ShiftiMin-related stuff

I expect to be poking at the new theme with sharp sticks during the TSA-Bash anyways, but in the meantime I discovered (largely by happenstance) that if you're not logged in, there's no "log in / create account" link in ShiftiMin! I'd say that's a bug - unless we want to become a really exclusive club. ;)
Looking pretty decent otherwise; we just need to figure out how to handle the menu organization. (Plus about eleventy billion other pet peeves with which I intend to drive you TOTALLY BATS**T INSANE. Mua ha ha.) --Viqsi 15:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought I'd gotten that bug (GAH! Must be related to me changing the user-options bits to a drop-down from the long list it was)
Since Shiftimin does not work on versions of IE prior to 8 without a massive javascript hack it is not meant to be used as the primary skin for Shifti. This means that the 'missing login/create link' is a very low priority bug.
I am currently poking at ideas for another design that is as (or more) minimalistic but is also designed to take full advantage of modern browsers CSS3 support and HTML5. That redesign is not public yet, since it is currently little more than an image in the GIMP.
Oh, and I already am 'TOTALLY BATS**T INSANE' - I just hide it well. So driving me there is a very short trip... And... If you have any ideas at all for changes, just dump them here. I'll get on top of the ones that are fast/easy to implement immediately.
And if you have Fx3.5 available, look at Shifti using the Shiftimin skin. All kinds of nifty little hacks I've added that target it. (Okay, so they could probably target Safari/WebKit and Konqueror/KHTML as well... but I'm not going to try and support all the alternative browsers until they agree on the format for the CSS. And Opera STILL does not support even the 'border-radius' property or the 'box-shadow' or 'text-shadow' properties)
--ShadowWolf 16:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey there, ShadowWolf. Just poking in here to point out what seems to be a bug. The SiteSearch function isn't working; I believe it has something to do with the server crash and tech replacement the other day. If I click the Search button it shows

A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
SELECT page_id, page_namespace, page_title FROM `shifti_page`,`shifti_searchindex` WHERE page_id=si_page AND MATCH(si_title) AGAINST( IN BOOLEAN MODE) AND page_is_redirect=0 AND page_namespace IN ('0','1','2','3','4','5','6','7','12','13','14','15') LIMIT 20
from within function "". MySQL returned error "145: Table './shifti/shifti_searchindex' is marked as crashed and should be repaired (malfoy)".

I guess this isn't normal, but I'm also guessing that you might have already noticed. Anyway, sorry that I can't donate. I don't have PayPal or MasterCard or anything. —Drake 13:15, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Thought I'd run the "check and repair" before bringing the new server live. Guess it didn't actually do the repair... It's fixed now - sorry for not spotting it myself :) -- ShadowWolf 15:03, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Redirects

Just a heads-up, I noticed that PAW General TimeLine was linked to from Talk:Rebuilding. I didn't check all the redirects so there might be others. In general I think it's best not to delete redirects left behind by page moves, especially not when the redirect's name still accurately reflects the content it's redirecting to - even if you fix all the internal links there's still the possibility that other pages out on the web point there. Bryan 06:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Links on archived pages

Hi ShadowWolf! Thanks for the welcome. :-)

I made the edits to the archived page because, well . . . posterity is nice, but if you don't actually get to the site intended, that's not very useful to readers! At WikiFur we either update outdated links, replace them with a link to archive.org, or remove them altogether; leaving them broken tends to results in linking to spam sites sooner or later. And WikiFur's old site is going down imminently. GreenReaper 01:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, well... I've added a new section to the front-page. For that set of archived pages we really should keep the links up-to-date. We have a larger problem right now that is in the process of being worked out - I'm sure you've seen the site-notice banner... -- ShadowWolf 02:21, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Spam Flood

What can we do about this? --Buck 04:44, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

So far there's only about a half dozen spam postings showing up per day, which is IMO quite manageable in terms of manual deletion. I'd recommend avoiding anything that might slow down legitimate posting. Maybe tweak the account creation captcha, if that's easy to do (I'd bet that spending more than a few hours working on it will probably be more time than is taken doing manual cleanup for the next month :) Bryan 06:13, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Right now I have a lot to do - including fixing the donation button. But a better captcha system than what we have is a good idea and I've been wondering if maybe using ReCaptcha would be a good idea. Very few spam-bots have cracked that one so far. -- ShadowWolf 13:18, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Seems to be coming in just brief surges. After that page of spam last night I went to bed expecting to have dozens more to delete in the morning, but no more came in. This one, too, may pass. Bryan 15:35, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm moderating another Wiki, and it's been hit as hard, if not harder. It's annoying to say the least, and we're trying to figure out better options ourselves, but there isn't much that can be done. Damn spammers. --Jetfire 12:07, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not going to try and fight the losing battle of who can outwit who. The only winner in that game is the spammers and everyone else loses big. The trick here is going to be finding a better way to secure the account creation and, at this point, file uploads. I have thought about an oversight system for monitoring uploads/page creation by new accounts, but it seems too draconian to me. -- ShadowWolf 13:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

This is getting worse than it was before. Looking at the Recent Changes page is very discouraging. --Buck 08:18, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Looks like we'll have to change Captcha systems (there might be a way to use ReCaptcha, which is a "proven hard to break" system) and I am going to change the upload permissions so that you need to have "author" status. Give me a bit to look at things - the problem is that any system we go with has to be both easy on humans and tough on bots... -- ShadowWolf 11:42, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Sounds like a reasonable step to me, Shifti is not very image-oriented anyway and only a few stories have them. Shouldn't be any need for non-authors to upload them. Bryan 23:20, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Uploads locked to Authors and above and it turns out the Captcha system was disabled entirely for some reason. I've re-enabled it and told it to use a question/response type of Captcha instead of the images. I'd have gone with ReCaptcha, but that is not part of the modern code, apparently. -- ShadowWolf 00:38, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

2012 Flood

Would disabling account creation for a while make any difference? I suppose they'd just come back the second it was re-enabled.--Buck 18:02, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

I've thought about this, but would have to discuss disabling account creation with BD first. Sometime today I am going to be instituting email validation for accounts. I just need to look into that :) -- ShadowWolf 18:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

To deal with the spam try changing the reCaptcha to a questyCaptcha. The bots have learned to be able to read the reCaptcha words. --ZProteus (talk) 07:45, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

We're using an HTML-spam blacklist system that has massively cut down on the amount of spam we get. -- ShadowWolf (talk) 01:19, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Argh! Here they go again! Can you tweak the account creation security? --Buck (talk) 03:20, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Apparently I'm getting "could not connect to fSpamlist server" at the top of the screen. --Buck (talk) 03:25, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Okay, we need to shut down new account registration, like, now. --Buck (talk) 22:48, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Turned off the createaccount permission - this should lock the site against new registrations. I'll look into different captcha methods, since ReCaptcha has been broken quite badly now. -- ShadowWolf (talk) 23:09, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Just a Note

Heartfelt thanks from a follower and long-term fan of the site. Glad to be here (and glad to finally be able to edit pages). Thanks for all you're doing! ChronoStrike (talk)

Big Note

I had nothing to do with the creation of the TSA-Talk Mailing List. I did, however, learn of it and first join in 1997 - ie: I 'Found' it on the net. The text there is correct and needs no changes.
--ShadowWolf (talk) 17:43, 4 November 2014 (CST)

Sorry; your wording of that particular word was hard for me to parse in that context; I wasn't sure whether it was a typo or if using a different word would be a better idea. In the future, I'll consult you or whoever else is involved in a page on which I am working if I'm confused about some of its contents and whether they need to be edited or not. Maybe the word 'discovered' would be more appropriate and less perplexing? You said in the description of the edit that reverted the one that I did and about which you got somewhat irritated that other typographical errors might exist in that article, and I think you're right; the one I misidentified just seemed like the biggest one there to me and therefore became the most important item on my list of problems to fix with that page. If you like, I can help you go through it with a finely-toothed comb, all right?
Apologies, 
— RandomDSdevel (talk) 20:51, 6 November 2014 (EST)
No problem. The simple fact is that I rarely do editing of pages - even ones I've created.
--ShadowWolf (talk) 09:54, 7 November 2014 (CST)
Thanks! Glad we've got that straightened out. — RandomDSdevel (talk) 16:30, 8 November 2014 (EST)


Formatting and XCom

Hello, we met at the bash at Phil's and you said this was the best way to get ahold of you. First a formatting/code question: I've seen several stories with a box at the top that says something along the lines of "The Llama Series! Next story: Llama's don't eat cake. Previous story: WTF why am I a Llama?" I've been trying to figure out how to do that on and off as it'd be a huge help for orginizing my stories, but have been having no luck.

Secondly, you may have heard I need more names for the XCom project, and I was wondering if I could add you. The idea is to use well known names in the comunity and as the Shifti Admin I think you qualify! Doomreaver (talk) 10:32, 17 January 2015 (CST)

We really, really need to make the help-files easier to locate... try Help:Templates - specifically the Linking Stories in a Series section. There are other useful templates there as well.
There are a number of other templates that have been created, but thanks to the server crash that took out most of the edits for a specific year a few years back I'm not actually sure what still exists.
--ShadowWolf (talk) 14:51, 17 January 2015 (CST)
Thanks for the information. May I use you for XCom, and if so what should I name the soldier? Doomreaver (talk) 17:13, 22 January 2015 (CST)

Help with Questions Asked in Another Thread?

Hey, ShadowWolf, did you see this thread when you replied to this other thread? I was wondering if you could reply to it for me…
— RandomDSdevel (talk) 15:39, 29 January 2015 (EST)

And you've 'been there, done that,' as they say. Thank you! — RandomDSdevel (talk) 15:42, 5 February 2015 (EST)

Possible Replacements for Asirra?

I don't know if this will help us any in finding a replacement for Asirra, but the extension's project page has some links to some other anti-spam projects. The most prominent link is one to the project page for ConfirmEdit, but we already have that installed. The other link that I noticed there was one to a list of what the page calls 'spam management extensions.' That's all I've found so far, but I'll let you know if I see anything else.

— RandomDSdevel (talk) 14:00, 5 March 2015 (EST)


Happened across this not too long ago: Ironclad CAPTCHA. Haven't found it in mediawiki plugin form, but it does work with PHP apps, so it might be worthwhile. --Viqsi (talk) 19:16, 24 April 2015 (CDT)