Talk:Story archives
No categories for the this page or the art archives one, please. They will be added when and/or if the admins determine they are needed. Thank you! — ShadowWolf 23:35, 18 August 2007 (EDT)
- Perhaps it would be good to come up with a few fairly generic "root" categories akin to the story ones for non-story pages like these. It's a common pattern on many wikis to have at least one category on every page, such that a page that has no categories is considered "broken" to some degree, so people coming here with experience from other wikies might find it nonintuitive that we're only categorizing some of the pages here. Maybe something like category:directories or category:external resources for pages with collections of external links and resources? Bryan 03:28, 19 August 2007 (EDT)
cyoc does have non interactive story and thus belongs in the 1st category as well. Catprog 18:37, 5 January 2008 (EST)
Changing Order of Links
While I have a generally hands-off approach to this site (I prefer to let cooler heads prevail) as the host I WILL NOT allow anyone to change the ordering of the links on the archives page in such a way that it actively moves sites that are already high-volume up the list. The archives pages were setup with an aim at being completely fair by imposing no order on the links, but if I catch one more "Anonymous Coward" purposefully monkeying with the links I will lock the page — period.
That is NOT open to discussion. Shifti has never asked (and will never ask) for links on other sites, nor for "Pride of Place" anyone attempting to fix Shifti so their favorite sites (or sites they administer) gain such "Pride of Place" on any of the various "Archives" pages will find that those pages are rapidly becoming locked down and their IP addresses are being blocked. If necessary policies similar to Wikipedia's massive list of subnets that are banned from editing will appear.
- ShadowWolf 21:36, 24 January 2008 (EST)
- Actually, the anon appears to have been correct in moving that entry. The main Choose Your Own Change site, at [1], has more than just interactive stories on it now and so it should be up in the "conventional" story archive list. I just signed up and took a look in the story section and it looks like an archive of conventional TF fiction. The interactive story component of that site appears to have been moved to a subpage at [2]. It's been a long time since I visited that site, I guess it's diversified over the years. 06:16, 25 January 2008 (EST)
- I don't care that the link was moved. What I do care about is that the link was moved to near the top of the list. Rather than just sticking the link to CYOC at the end of the list of links to other archives, they stuck it in at the third position. That is what I mean by "Pride of Place" — with the anonymous change, CYOC suddenly became #3 on the archives list. That is a blatant attempt to make sure CYOC is seen when the page is first loaded which almost guarantees that it will get hits coming in from Shifti. Since Shifti does not ask for listings like that, I can't see why we should let people monkey the listings to provide preferential placement.
- ShadowWolf 16:12, 25 January 2008 (EST)
- I don't care that the link was moved. What I do care about is that the link was moved to near the top of the list. Rather than just sticking the link to CYOC at the end of the list of links to other archives, they stuck it in at the third position. That is what I mean by "Pride of Place" — with the anonymous change, CYOC suddenly became #3 on the archives list. That is a blatant attempt to make sure CYOC is seen when the page is first loaded which almost guarantees that it will get hits coming in from Shifti. Since Shifti does not ask for listings like that, I can't see why we should let people monkey the listings to provide preferential placement.
- Oh my, somebody went and alphabetized the "Story Archives" page. I didn't know that - to maintain the order, CYOC is now the second link. My statement about intentionally changing the order of the lists still stands. And really, just enforcing the alphabetization is enough to keep that from happening.
- ShadowWolf 16:18, 25 January 2008 (EST)
- Oh my, somebody went and alphabetized the "Story Archives" page. I didn't know that - to maintain the order, CYOC is now the second link. My statement about intentionally changing the order of the lists still stands. And really, just enforcing the alphabetization is enough to keep that from happening.
- Yeah, I used a plain alphabetical listing back when I started the list on the original Shifti for this very reason - it's an objective criterion that is completely non-judgemental, so there should be no strife or dispute regarding the ordering. This list isn't a "favorites", it's intended to be like the category listings. Favorites can be listed on user pages or picks lists just like internal stories are. Bryan 23:48, 25 January 2008 (EST)
TFCentral is dead
TFCentral and TF Seeker Sightings has died.
