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After I've completed some of my current projects perhaps I shall. (give me a few weeks). And thanks Bryan, as anyone will tell you, I'm addicted to mental change TF. My only regret is that Steph didn't have time to come with a back story for his character.  
 
After I've completed some of my current projects perhaps I shall. (give me a few weeks). And thanks Bryan, as anyone will tell you, I'm addicted to mental change TF. My only regret is that Steph didn't have time to come with a back story for his character.  
 
Alex Warlorn 2008 04 04 12:28 PM PST
 
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I find Garrett to be a fascinating character. It's one thing to become an inanimate but it's quite another to be a living weapon (or as close to living as an inanimate gets). --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]]
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: Thanks.  I have to say, a year ago when Bryan put the link to that costume on a Talk page, I got a wild rush. - Joysweeper
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Motorcycles don't start by using the key, they have a separate starter. --[[User:7eggert|7eggert]] ([[User talk:7eggert|talk]])
  
 
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Yes they are. But care to fill me on who the cameo is this time?  
 
Yes they are. But care to fill me on who the cameo is this time?  
 
--- Alex Warlorn, 2008 05 8th
 
--- Alex Warlorn, 2008 05 8th
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==Getting restarted==
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I think I've got to admit at this point that I've lost what contact I originally had with these characters; in the past few weeks I've actually been quite productive in terms of writing (though most not Shifti-postable yet) but haven't been able to get back into the flow of this story in particular. So I'm pondering strategy for how to get back into things. Joysweeper, if you've had any desire to have the characters I was managing do something but felt reluctant because they were 'mine', now would be an ideal time to lunge in and make them do what you'd like. I certainly wouldn't have any objection and it might even help to jump-start me again. [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 00:37, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
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:Right...  well, thanks for filling me in.  --[[User:Joysweeper|Joysweeper]] 08:04, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
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::Very sorry about it, BTW. There are some great scenes planned for this story, it's just a question of getting there. The fact that I sometimes "stall out" on a story like this even though I know where it's going is why I don't post more of my in-progress works to Shifti, I hate leaving them hanging. [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 10:21, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
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:::It happens, I guess.  I'm sure you'll let me know when you un-stall.  Meanwhile it's finally dawned on me that I have a "Steven" and a "Tony" peripherally connected, and considering what's been on my mind lately...  aaagh, I gotta change that!  --[[User:Joysweeper|Joysweeper]] 11:05, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
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Wonderful. Yes yes this is what it's all about. Looking into the mind of a sentient imperial walker is a master stroke! Seeing how it's mind interprets everything and what it thinks of everything. Almost too bad it didn't get a crew, so empty. And thinking of human terms for itself as nonsense while the technically ones as rational. This takes talent!
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--Alex Warlorn 2008 07 06
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Your latest edit summary suggests you may be running into a wall too, and I'm nearly done Idle Hands - should just be one or two more writing sessions to go on that one. Would you like me to try taking a turn at this next? A lot has happened to the characters so I may be past whatever obstruction was halting me before. [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 02:29, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
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: If you'd like to, sure.  I might manage a little more in the next few days, but right now I'm kind of stumped.  --[[User:Joysweeper|Joysweeper]] 10:09, 11 August 2008 (EDT)
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Seems I'm stumped too. In the meantime, [http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?attachment_id=18202] (found via [http://abduzeedo.com/the-star-wars-culture]) [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 14:19, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
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== Still reading, it's going awesome ==
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Just thought I should let you know that despite having lost the writing thread on this concept entirely, I'm still reading and immensely enjoying your work on it. At this point I think you should feel free to remove the "Bryan and Joysweeper" byline and just go with "Joysweeper", or maybe throw in a "based on an idea by Bryan" somewhere if you prefer. The amount of work you've done has been awesome and the heart of the story is yours now. :) [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 00:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
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: Okay.  Suppose I'll use categories too, the ones I can think of.  Really bad at remembering those.  Also, I found [http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~sf-papercraft/Gallery/at-at/at-at.html an AT-AT papercraft.]  Would it have killed them to make more detailed instructions?  Tried it anyway.  Not bad, considering I'd never done papercraft before.  Glue hates me.  The "prove you're not a robot" thing that pops up with all exterior links is very annoying.  --[[User:Joysweeper|Joysweeper]] 01:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
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:: That 'prove your not a robot' thing, I think, stops most of the spammers who would normally hit us hard. It doesn't get them all, but a good number. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you that I'm really loving this story. As soon as it's finished it's going to be heading for my favorites list. Oh, and I haven't given up on running a complete Xanadu archive, but after the server crash that took the original one out it has become a secondary concern to making sure that the server remains stable and Shifti keeps a solid uptime. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 00:42, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
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::: Thanks.  Really I know nothing about running a website, so guess it's not possible to turn that off or whatever for writers.  Oh well.  --[[User:Joysweeper|Joysweeper]] 01:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
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::::As a long time star wars fan, this story is a great read. I love your work. I just hope this gets finished soon. --[[User:Guvnor Of Space|Guvnor Of Space]] 23:16, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:24, 17 September 2012

Comments

Actually, I was on vacation over the weekend and it turned out to be rather more active than I was expecting so my plan to work on the story went awry. Some friends and I went out to the mountains in a convoy of two cars, and one of the cars broke down spectacularly just short of our destination. Couldn't fit everyone into just one car. :) Bryan 19:37, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Ah, okay. Understood. Murphy's Law... Something similar once happened with my dad, his friends, and a canoe trip, but he never wanted to talk about it. Hey, I'm curious - when, if ever, are you and/or Jon going to upload that Spirit Path story? I found it again while perusing the Archive, and lost an afternoon rereading it. --Joysweeper 21:31, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

I'm very reluctant to upload any story so directly self-referential. So there's a bunch of stuff that'll never show up on Shifti, including my TBP stories. Glad you liked the story, though. --Buck 22:58, 1 April 2008 (EDT)
Huh. Alright. I'd been wondering since I saw "Against Type". Good to know. --Joysweeper 13:27, 2 April 2008 (EDT)

Finally making some progress on the story. May be a couple of hours before I upload it yet, just thought you might like to know there'll be something available in the morning. I was amazed to see that almost a month has passed since I last added to this, RL has been quite disruptive (and I've been quite undisciplined, too). Bryan 00:36, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

I'm actually looking forwards to seeing what the mind of an AT-AT would be like.

Alex Warlorn 2008 04 04 3 44 AM PST

Hey, you're not supposed to be reading yet! :) (next up is a bit of writing about Steph, but there'll be Garrett content in that section too so hopefully that'll satisfy :)Bryan 11:55, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
What Bryan said! And seriously, get an account here and post your stuff already. You won't get spammed. Seeing a chain of numbers instead of a username on the "Recent Changes" page is annoying.

Garrett's TF was everything I could have hoped for, more or less. Going to have to play around with my section. --Joysweeper 15:24, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

After I've completed some of my current projects perhaps I shall. (give me a few weeks). And thanks Bryan, as anyone will tell you, I'm addicted to mental change TF. My only regret is that Steph didn't have time to come with a back story for his character. Alex Warlorn 2008 04 04 12:28 PM PST

I find Garrett to be a fascinating character. It's one thing to become an inanimate but it's quite another to be a living weapon (or as close to living as an inanimate gets). --Lloyd

Thanks. I have to say, a year ago when Bryan put the link to that costume on a Talk page, I got a wild rush. - Joysweeper

Motorcycles don't start by using the key, they have a separate starter. --7eggert (talk)

Planning

Hope it was worth the wait. I'll try to do some stuff with Steph today, he'll provide a good outside view on what happened to Garrett. Assuming he's paying any attention to it himself. :) What was the "less" part of "more or less"? I'm open to editing suggestions, especially at this stage in the story's development where everything's still so messy. Bryan 16:43, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
Oh, that should be fun. :D The "less" is minor and came to mind after I'd flossed - I could feel my heart beating, really strongly, in the right side of my throat and in my gums. It faded away very slowly, and nerd that I am I was reminded of something in a comic - "You can't feel yourself breathe. You can't feel your heartbeat. And you can't recognize the man in the mirror" - and instantly thought "Story!" and filed it away. This happens a lot, actually... Anyway, it's probably covered better by the part about breathing. Maybe I should make a page just to compile all my idea-scraps on. --Joysweeper 17:31, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
I added a bit about heartbeat to the scene, I think it fit in okay. I've also established Steph's form, the pieces are coming into place for the characters to cross paths. Any ideas on how you'd like to do that? I'm thinking that once the big mob rush is past Steph will tentatively venture out to find Garrett lying in the rubble, and when Garrett wakes up he'll find himself unable to get back to his feet. Steph will need to find some help to rescue him and get him outside. A substantial amount of time can pass here if need be, though - hours even. Bryan 21:47, 10 April 2008 (EDT)
Hmm. I don't think more than an hour passes between the Event and the scout troopers heading out - and it would be easier for Steph to get out and start the highway scene earlier on, when it's less likely that law enforcement is trying to keep everyone contained. I'd really like to play Garrett off Anj - he's more Imperial than he realizes - and the squad trapped inside by an enemy could easily be Tampa Bay. I think we've got different plans in mind. Here's this; I'll lay out the timeline as I understand it, and you tell me how yours differs. Not all of this is shown or referenced.

Anj and SL-1984 arrive, have the "function" or donation drive with Tampa Bay Squad. It ends, and everyone wanders off in a loose group. Overheating, Anj splits off from the group and gets a good distance away. Garrett and Steph, surrounded by curious fans, encounter SL-1984, then get a short distance from him and the other fans. The Event takes place; I originally felt that SL-1984 was alone at that moment, but that really was a character piece, mostly for the sake of establishing his personality. The Kool-Aid Man, jumping, gets Garrett to tip over and forcibly reintroduces SL-1984 and Steph; he then encounters Anj. Anj eventually gets to a bathroom and spends some time there, then gets out, makes his way outside, and meets up with more fans. They're listening in on radio chatter and find out that at some point Garrett got out, grew, and started down a highway. Sixteen people including Anj are sent to intercept while the rest of the group finds a new problem, and that's as much as I can assume. Things are happening pretty quickly. What's your take? --Joysweeper 23:03, 10 April 2008 (EDT)

Sounds good. I'd been thinking we could leave Garrett lying on the floor for as long as we needed to have other things go on, but if we don't have other things that need to go on I'll get him on his feet in short order.
I'm not entirely sure how to do it just yet, but tonight I shall write and the answers shall come. Pulleys and levers might be involved. :) I figure Steph will be the one who arranges it since as a telepath he'll be able to communicate with everyone involved. I'll then give Garrett a fright and set him moving, and Steph will get left behind to explain what's going on and hitch a lift with the scout troopers.
If you'd like less SL-1984 involvement immediately post-TF I can arrange that easily enough by having one of the troopers snatch Steph away to safety instead of him. Bryan 23:53, 16 April 2008 (EDT)
No, it's good. The little section I wrote could easily be cut; basically all that happens is that SL-1984 runs off, and the other trooper do likewise, though for a different reason. Steph could cut in before Price gives the order and get their help, or he could go out after they leave and get someone else. I've been thinking of Trekkies a lot recently - if nothing else, they're worth a mention in the epilogue. Have to get fuel from somewhere.
I'd really like it if Anj doesn't find out that Garrett's "alive" until he gets into the cockpit - he might get told that, but it doesn't really sink in. It would be easy enough for Steph to show up and hitch a ride after Anj's group takes off, I think. --Joysweeper 14:38, 17 April 2008 (EDT)


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Great. Now you got me thinking about the transition and transformation of the R-2 now, assuming it wasn't someone's toy before. Mental change is always sweetest when it's from something human into a way of reason that isn't human. Alex Warlorn -- 4:39 PM PST April 2008 13th

I'm just cameoing R2KT. Don't look for your mental stuff in every corner. --Joysweeper 21:30, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

"Now they pounded past, not as heavy as the big creature or even the stormtroopers but very quick. He could hear a girl spouting a steady stream of "OW OW OW get OFF AHH OW" sprinkled with invective, and as she raced past Steph saw a pair of towering stockinged legs pumping. Something smaller and greenish clung to one of them, but they were both gone before he could get a better look."


Yes they are. But care to fill me on who the cameo is this time? --- Alex Warlorn, 2008 05 8th

Getting restarted

I think I've got to admit at this point that I've lost what contact I originally had with these characters; in the past few weeks I've actually been quite productive in terms of writing (though most not Shifti-postable yet) but haven't been able to get back into the flow of this story in particular. So I'm pondering strategy for how to get back into things. Joysweeper, if you've had any desire to have the characters I was managing do something but felt reluctant because they were 'mine', now would be an ideal time to lunge in and make them do what you'd like. I certainly wouldn't have any objection and it might even help to jump-start me again. Bryan 00:37, 6 July 2008 (EDT)

Right... well, thanks for filling me in. --Joysweeper 08:04, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
Very sorry about it, BTW. There are some great scenes planned for this story, it's just a question of getting there. The fact that I sometimes "stall out" on a story like this even though I know where it's going is why I don't post more of my in-progress works to Shifti, I hate leaving them hanging. Bryan 10:21, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
It happens, I guess. I'm sure you'll let me know when you un-stall. Meanwhile it's finally dawned on me that I have a "Steven" and a "Tony" peripherally connected, and considering what's been on my mind lately... aaagh, I gotta change that! --Joysweeper 11:05, 6 July 2008 (EDT)


Wonderful. Yes yes this is what it's all about. Looking into the mind of a sentient imperial walker is a master stroke! Seeing how it's mind interprets everything and what it thinks of everything. Almost too bad it didn't get a crew, so empty. And thinking of human terms for itself as nonsense while the technically ones as rational. This takes talent!

--Alex Warlorn 2008 07 06

Your latest edit summary suggests you may be running into a wall too, and I'm nearly done Idle Hands - should just be one or two more writing sessions to go on that one. Would you like me to try taking a turn at this next? A lot has happened to the characters so I may be past whatever obstruction was halting me before. Bryan 02:29, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

If you'd like to, sure. I might manage a little more in the next few days, but right now I'm kind of stumped. --Joysweeper 10:09, 11 August 2008 (EDT)

Seems I'm stumped too. In the meantime, [1] (found via [2]) Bryan 14:19, 25 September 2008 (EDT)

Still reading, it's going awesome

Just thought I should let you know that despite having lost the writing thread on this concept entirely, I'm still reading and immensely enjoying your work on it. At this point I think you should feel free to remove the "Bryan and Joysweeper" byline and just go with "Joysweeper", or maybe throw in a "based on an idea by Bryan" somewhere if you prefer. The amount of work you've done has been awesome and the heart of the story is yours now. :) Bryan 00:29, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Suppose I'll use categories too, the ones I can think of. Really bad at remembering those. Also, I found an AT-AT papercraft. Would it have killed them to make more detailed instructions? Tried it anyway. Not bad, considering I'd never done papercraft before. Glue hates me. The "prove you're not a robot" thing that pops up with all exterior links is very annoying. --Joysweeper 01:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
That 'prove your not a robot' thing, I think, stops most of the spammers who would normally hit us hard. It doesn't get them all, but a good number. Anyway, I just wanted to tell you that I'm really loving this story. As soon as it's finished it's going to be heading for my favorites list. Oh, and I haven't given up on running a complete Xanadu archive, but after the server crash that took the original one out it has become a secondary concern to making sure that the server remains stable and Shifti keeps a solid uptime. -- ShadowWolf 00:42, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Really I know nothing about running a website, so guess it's not possible to turn that off or whatever for writers. Oh well. --Joysweeper 01:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
As a long time star wars fan, this story is a great read. I love your work. I just hope this gets finished soon. --Guvnor Of Space 23:16, 25 June 2009 (UTC)