Category talk:Xanadu - Revision history

https://shifti.org/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Category_talk%3AXanadu Category talk:Xanadu - Revision history 2026-09-22T01:14:54Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.46.0-alpha https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Xanadu&diff=14405&oldid=prev Alveric at 15:18, 17 May 2011 2011-05-17T15:18:13Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:18, 17 May 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l18">Line 18:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 18:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:There are approximately 15,000 victims not counting secondary transformations. Plenty of room to accommodated more victims that don't want government help or who blame Eric Winters for their plight. Of course offering sanctuary to victims is really a secondary purpose. I want to recreate a alien environment within the park based on my characters home world and such. Es ship is kind of a doomsday vault of information for the recreation of Kuhyce society. I chose the most remote inhospitable location in the US. Of course the Sahara desert would work, but I wanted it to be in the US.[[User:JoharaGuardian|JoharaGuardian]] 05:53, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:There are approximately 15,000 victims not counting secondary transformations. Plenty of room to accommodated more victims that don't want government help or who blame Eric Winters for their plight. Of course offering sanctuary to victims is really a secondary purpose. I want to recreate a alien environment within the park based on my characters home world and such. Es ship is kind of a doomsday vault of information for the recreation of Kuhyce society. I chose the most remote inhospitable location in the US. Of course the Sahara desert would work, but I wanted it to be in the US.[[User:JoharaGuardian|JoharaGuardian]] 05:53, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I'm not the originator either, though I really like the setting. I can't see the U.S. Govt. agreeing to this for any amount of money. However, purchasing a large tract of desert land somewhere in the U.S. might be plausible. But, think how suspicious the Govt. would be of any Xanadu survivors it doesn't have control over. If I were one of those survivors, it would certainly sound better than a FEMA trailer park. Not a good location at all for Merfolk, though ;-). --[[User:Alveric|Alveric]] 15:16, 17 May 2011 (UTC)<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Alveric 11:07am EDT, 05/16/2011</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I'm not the originator either, though I really like the setting. I can't see the U.S. Govt. agreeing to this for any amount of money. However, purchasing a large tract of desert land somewhere in the U.S. might be plausible. But, think how suspicious the Govt. would be of any Xanadu survivors it doesn't have control over. If I were one of those survivors, it would certainly sound better than a FEMA trailer park. Not a good location at all for Merfolk, though ;-). --[[User:Alveric|Alveric]] 15:16, 17 May 2011 (UTC) <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(Added signature)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeah, I'm sure that buying a large area of public national park land in the US for development would be, at the least, complicated. For the most part, it would be a non-starter. That doesn't mean that you couldn't do something like that in the US. There are huge areas of private, or at least available, land all over the US. I can think of one that wasn't even all that long ago a vacation spot but is now a ghost town: The Salton Sea in Southern California. If someone wanted to turn that into a refuge, I imagine that you could do it with enough money, there is already a basic infrastructure there, and even a large body of (salt) water. It would make more sense than Death Valley. --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 17:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeah, I'm sure that buying a large area of public national park land in the US for development would be, at the least, complicated. For the most part, it would be a non-starter. That doesn't mean that you couldn't do something like that in the US. There are huge areas of private, or at least available, land all over the US. I can think of one that wasn't even all that long ago a vacation spot but is now a ghost town: The Salton Sea in Southern California. If someone wanted to turn that into a refuge, I imagine that you could do it with enough money, there is already a basic infrastructure there, and even a large body of (salt) water. It would make more sense than Death Valley. --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 17:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr>  </table>

Alveric https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Xanadu&diff=14404&oldid=prev Alveric at 15:16, 17 May 2011 2011-05-17T15:16:26Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:16, 17 May 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l18">Line 18:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 18:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:There are approximately 15,000 victims not counting secondary transformations. Plenty of room to accommodated more victims that don't want government help or who blame Eric Winters for their plight. Of course offering sanctuary to victims is really a secondary purpose. I want to recreate a alien environment within the park based on my characters home world and such. Es ship is kind of a doomsday vault of information for the recreation of Kuhyce society. I chose the most remote inhospitable location in the US. Of course the Sahara desert would work, but I wanted it to be in the US.[[User:JoharaGuardian|JoharaGuardian]] 05:53, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:There are approximately 15,000 victims not counting secondary transformations. Plenty of room to accommodated more victims that don't want government help or who blame Eric Winters for their plight. Of course offering sanctuary to victims is really a secondary purpose. I want to recreate a alien environment within the park based on my characters home world and such. Es ship is kind of a doomsday vault of information for the recreation of Kuhyce society. I chose the most remote inhospitable location in the US. Of course the Sahara desert would work, but I wanted it to be in the US.[[User:JoharaGuardian|JoharaGuardian]] 05:53, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I'm not the originator either, though I really like the setting. I can't see the U.S. Govt. agreeing to this for any amount of money. However, purchasing a large tract of desert land somewhere in the U.S. might be plausible. But, think how suspicious the Govt. would be of any Xanadu survivors it doesn't have control over. If I were one of those survivors, it would certainly sound better than a FEMA trailer park. Not a good location at all for Merfolk, though ;-). Alveric 11:07am EDT, 05/16/2011</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I'm not the originator either, though I really like the setting. I can't see the U.S. Govt. agreeing to this for any amount of money. However, purchasing a large tract of desert land somewhere in the U.S. might be plausible. But, think how suspicious the Govt. would be of any Xanadu survivors it doesn't have control over. If I were one of those survivors, it would certainly sound better than a FEMA trailer park. Not a good location at all for Merfolk, though ;-). <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">--[[User:Alveric|Alveric]] 15:16, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</ins>Alveric 11:07am EDT, 05/16/2011</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeah, I'm sure that buying a large area of public national park land in the US for development would be, at the least, complicated. For the most part, it would be a non-starter. That doesn't mean that you couldn't do something like that in the US. There are huge areas of private, or at least available, land all over the US. I can think of one that wasn't even all that long ago a vacation spot but is now a ghost town: The Salton Sea in Southern California. If someone wanted to turn that into a refuge, I imagine that you could do it with enough money, there is already a basic infrastructure there, and even a large body of (salt) water. It would make more sense than Death Valley. --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 17:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeah, I'm sure that buying a large area of public national park land in the US for development would be, at the least, complicated. For the most part, it would be a non-starter. That doesn't mean that you couldn't do something like that in the US. There are huge areas of private, or at least available, land all over the US. I can think of one that wasn't even all that long ago a vacation spot but is now a ghost town: The Salton Sea in Southern California. If someone wanted to turn that into a refuge, I imagine that you could do it with enough money, there is already a basic infrastructure there, and even a large body of (salt) water. It would make more sense than Death Valley. --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 17:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr>  </table>

Alveric https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Xanadu&diff=14396&oldid=prev JoharaGuardian at 04:53, 17 May 2011 2011-05-17T04:53:04Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:53, 16 May 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l22">Line 22:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 22:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeah, I'm sure that buying a large area of public national park land in the US for development would be, at the least, complicated. For the most part, it would be a non-starter. That doesn't mean that you couldn't do something like that in the US. There are huge areas of private, or at least available, land all over the US. I can think of one that wasn't even all that long ago a vacation spot but is now a ghost town: The Salton Sea in Southern California. If someone wanted to turn that into a refuge, I imagine that you could do it with enough money, there is already a basic infrastructure there, and even a large body of (salt) water. It would make more sense than Death Valley. --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 17:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeah, I'm sure that buying a large area of public national park land in the US for development would be, at the least, complicated. For the most part, it would be a non-starter. That doesn't mean that you couldn't do something like that in the US. There are huge areas of private, or at least available, land all over the US. I can think of one that wasn't even all that long ago a vacation spot but is now a ghost town: The Salton Sea in Southern California. If someone wanted to turn that into a refuge, I imagine that you could do it with enough money, there is already a basic infrastructure there, and even a large body of (salt) water. It would make more sense than Death Valley. --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 17:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Death Valley was chosen due to its remoteness, it's limited native vegetation, and well just seemed like a place to start. The idea wasn't to build a refuge as much as xenoform the area to be more like parts of the Kyhyce home world. Including turning much of the Valley into a lake and creating a barrier to thicken the atmosphere and introducing plants and animals from the Kyhyce homeworld. Basically turning the desert into a lake a forest land. Admittedly grandiose, but hey with all these powerful people in Xanadu it seemed a good idea to have something big happen. lol</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Death Valley was chosen due to its remoteness, it's limited native vegetation, and well just seemed like a place to start. The idea wasn't to build a refuge as much as xenoform the area to be more like parts of the Kyhyce home world. Including turning much of the Valley into a lake and creating a barrier to thicken the atmosphere and introducing plants and animals from the Kyhyce homeworld. Basically turning the desert into a lake a forest land. Admittedly grandiose, but hey with all these powerful people in Xanadu it seemed a good idea to have something big happen. lol <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:JoharaGuardian|JoharaGuardian]] 04:53, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeh, if you're talking about literally thermoforming a section of land of almost any size, you're going to have to go somewhere where the government isn't going to tie you up in environmental impact statements for the next three decades... --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 21:30, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeh, if you're talking about literally thermoforming a section of land of almost any size, you're going to have to go somewhere where the government isn't going to tie you up in environmental impact statements for the next three decades... --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 21:30, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The Sahara is looking better. Or maybe off planet, but neither feels right. Of course I could side step the issue and just say "I am taking this land. Here is generous compensation in the form of gold, minerals, and jewels with the promise of technological innovations to come. If you have a serious problem with this then I should warn you any attempt to retake the land or otherwise interfere will not and cannot be successful."</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The Sahara is looking better. Or maybe off planet, but neither feels right. Of course I could side step the issue and just say "I am taking this land. Here is generous compensation in the form of gold, minerals, and jewels with the promise of technological innovations to come. If you have a serious problem with this then I should warn you any attempt to retake the land or otherwise interfere will not and cannot be successful."<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:JoharaGuardian|JoharaGuardian]] 04:53, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Hmmm, after giving it more thought and discovering that almost all big chunks of wilderness in the US are owned by the government I decided on a possible solution. A large artificial island in the Bermuda Triangle could be a possible solution without the drawback of taking up us land.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Hmmm, after giving it more thought and discovering that almost all big chunks of wilderness in the US are owned by the government I decided on a possible solution. A large artificial island in the Bermuda Triangle could be a possible solution without the drawback of taking up us land. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[User:JoharaGuardian|JoharaGuardian]] 04:53, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Make sure you sign your comments by hitting the signature button, second to the left of the line on the top toolbar. Four tildes also do the trick. Thanks. --[[User:JonBuck|Buck]] 04:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:::Make sure you sign your comments by hitting the signature button, second to the left of the line on the top toolbar. Four tildes also do the trick. Thanks. --[[User:JonBuck|Buck]] 04:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::::I keep forgetting to do that sorry lol There fixed my comments. [[User:JoharaGuardian|JoharaGuardian]] 04:53, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

JoharaGuardian https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Xanadu&diff=14395&oldid=prev JonBuck at 04:50, 17 May 2011 2011-05-17T04:50:56Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:50, 16 May 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l30">Line 30:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 30:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Hmmm, after giving it more thought and discovering that almost all big chunks of wilderness in the US are owned by the government I decided on a possible solution. A large artificial island in the Bermuda Triangle could be a possible solution without the drawback of taking up us land.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>::Hmmm, after giving it more thought and discovering that almost all big chunks of wilderness in the US are owned by the government I decided on a possible solution. A large artificial island in the Bermuda Triangle could be a possible solution without the drawback of taking up us land.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:::Make sure you sign your comments by hitting the signature button, second to the left of the line on the top toolbar. Four tildes also do the trick. Thanks. --[[User:JonBuck|Buck]] 04:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

JonBuck https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Xanadu&diff=14394&oldid=prev JoharaGuardian at 03:22, 17 May 2011 2011-05-17T03:22:55Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:22, 16 May 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l28">Line 28:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 28:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The Sahara is looking better. Or maybe off planet, but neither feels right. Of course I could side step the issue and just say "I am taking this land. Here is generous compensation in the form of gold, minerals, and jewels with the promise of technological innovations to come. If you have a serious problem with this then I should warn you any attempt to retake the land or otherwise interfere will not and cannot be successful."</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:The Sahara is looking better. Or maybe off planet, but neither feels right. Of course I could side step the issue and just say "I am taking this land. Here is generous compensation in the form of gold, minerals, and jewels with the promise of technological innovations to come. If you have a serious problem with this then I should warn you any attempt to retake the land or otherwise interfere will not and cannot be successful."</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">::Hmmm, after giving it more thought and discovering that almost all big chunks of wilderness in the US are owned by the government I decided on a possible solution. A large artificial island in the Bermuda Triangle could be a possible solution without the drawback of taking up us land.</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

JoharaGuardian https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Xanadu&diff=14392&oldid=prev JoharaGuardian at 21:40, 16 May 2011 2011-05-16T21:40:53Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:40, 16 May 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l26">Line 26:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 26:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeh, if you're talking about literally thermoforming a section of land of almost any size, you're going to have to go somewhere where the government isn't going to tie you up in environmental impact statements for the next three decades... --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 21:30, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeh, if you're talking about literally thermoforming a section of land of almost any size, you're going to have to go somewhere where the government isn't going to tie you up in environmental impact statements for the next three decades... --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 21:30, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:The Sahara is looking better. Or maybe off planet, but neither feels right. Of course I could side step the issue and just say "I am taking this land. Here is generous compensation in the form of gold, minerals, and jewels with the promise of technological innovations to come. If you have a serious problem with this then I should warn you any attempt to retake the land or otherwise interfere will not and cannot be successful."</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

JoharaGuardian https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Xanadu&diff=14390&oldid=prev Eirik at 21:30, 16 May 2011 2011-05-16T21:30:55Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:30, 16 May 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l23">Line 23:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 23:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Death Valley was chosen due to its remoteness, it's limited native vegetation, and well just seemed like a place to start. The idea wasn't to build a refuge as much as xenoform the area to be more like parts of the Kyhyce home world. Including turning much of the Valley into a lake and creating a barrier to thicken the atmosphere and introducing plants and animals from the Kyhyce homeworld. Basically turning the desert into a lake a forest land. Admittedly grandiose, but hey with all these powerful people in Xanadu it seemed a good idea to have something big happen. lol</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:Death Valley was chosen due to its remoteness, it's limited native vegetation, and well just seemed like a place to start. The idea wasn't to build a refuge as much as xenoform the area to be more like parts of the Kyhyce home world. Including turning much of the Valley into a lake and creating a barrier to thicken the atmosphere and introducing plants and animals from the Kyhyce homeworld. Basically turning the desert into a lake a forest land. Admittedly grandiose, but hey with all these powerful people in Xanadu it seemed a good idea to have something big happen. lol</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Yeh, if you're talking about literally thermoforming a section of land of almost any size, you're going to have to go somewhere where the government isn't going to tie you up in environmental impact statements for the next three decades... --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 21:30, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Eirik https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Xanadu&diff=14389&oldid=prev JoharaGuardian at 21:26, 16 May 2011 2011-05-16T21:26:14Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 16:26, 16 May 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l21">Line 21:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 21:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeah, I'm sure that buying a large area of public national park land in the US for development would be, at the least, complicated. For the most part, it would be a non-starter. That doesn't mean that you couldn't do something like that in the US. There are huge areas of private, or at least available, land all over the US. I can think of one that wasn't even all that long ago a vacation spot but is now a ghost town: The Salton Sea in Southern California. If someone wanted to turn that into a refuge, I imagine that you could do it with enough money, there is already a basic infrastructure there, and even a large body of (salt) water. It would make more sense than Death Valley. --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 17:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Yeah, I'm sure that buying a large area of public national park land in the US for development would be, at the least, complicated. For the most part, it would be a non-starter. That doesn't mean that you couldn't do something like that in the US. There are huge areas of private, or at least available, land all over the US. I can think of one that wasn't even all that long ago a vacation spot but is now a ghost town: The Salton Sea in Southern California. If someone wanted to turn that into a refuge, I imagine that you could do it with enough money, there is already a basic infrastructure there, and even a large body of (salt) water. It would make more sense than Death Valley. --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 17:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:Death Valley was chosen due to its remoteness, it's limited native vegetation, and well just seemed like a place to start. The idea wasn't to build a refuge as much as xenoform the area to be more like parts of the Kyhyce home world. Including turning much of the Valley into a lake and creating a barrier to thicken the atmosphere and introducing plants and animals from the Kyhyce homeworld. Basically turning the desert into a lake a forest land. Admittedly grandiose, but hey with all these powerful people in Xanadu it seemed a good idea to have something big happen. lol</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

JoharaGuardian https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Xanadu&diff=14381&oldid=prev Eirik at 17:38, 16 May 2011 2011-05-16T17:38:17Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 12:38, 16 May 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l19">Line 19:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 19:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I'm not the originator either, though I really like the setting. I can't see the U.S. Govt. agreeing to this for any amount of money. However, purchasing a large tract of desert land somewhere in the U.S. might be plausible. But, think how suspicious the Govt. would be of any Xanadu survivors it doesn't have control over. If I were one of those survivors, it would certainly sound better than a FEMA trailer park. Not a good location at all for Merfolk, though ;-). Alveric 11:07am EDT, 05/16/2011</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I'm not the originator either, though I really like the setting. I can't see the U.S. Govt. agreeing to this for any amount of money. However, purchasing a large tract of desert land somewhere in the U.S. might be plausible. But, think how suspicious the Govt. would be of any Xanadu survivors it doesn't have control over. If I were one of those survivors, it would certainly sound better than a FEMA trailer park. Not a good location at all for Merfolk, though ;-). Alveric 11:07am EDT, 05/16/2011</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Yeah, I'm sure that buying a large area of public national park land in the US for development would be, at the least, complicated. For the most part, it would be a non-starter. That doesn't mean that you couldn't do something like that in the US. There are huge areas of private, or at least available, land all over the US. I can think of one that wasn't even all that long ago a vacation spot but is now a ghost town: The Salton Sea in Southern California. If someone wanted to turn that into a refuge, I imagine that you could do it with enough money, there is already a basic infrastructure there, and even a large body of (salt) water. It would make more sense than Death Valley. --[[User:Eirik|Eirik]] 17:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Eirik https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Xanadu&diff=14377&oldid=prev Alveric at 15:09, 16 May 2011 2011-05-16T15:09:39Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:09, 16 May 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l17">Line 17:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 17:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:There are approximately 15,000 victims not counting secondary transformations. Plenty of room to accommodated more victims that don't want government help or who blame Eric Winters for their plight. Of course offering sanctuary to victims is really a secondary purpose. I want to recreate a alien environment within the park based on my characters home world and such. Es ship is kind of a doomsday vault of information for the recreation of Kuhyce society. I chose the most remote inhospitable location in the US. Of course the Sahara desert would work, but I wanted it to be in the US.[[User:JoharaGuardian|JoharaGuardian]] 05:53, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:There are approximately 15,000 victims not counting secondary transformations. Plenty of room to accommodated more victims that don't want government help or who blame Eric Winters for their plight. Of course offering sanctuary to victims is really a secondary purpose. I want to recreate a alien environment within the park based on my characters home world and such. Es ship is kind of a doomsday vault of information for the recreation of Kuhyce society. I chose the most remote inhospitable location in the US. Of course the Sahara desert would work, but I wanted it to be in the US.[[User:JoharaGuardian|JoharaGuardian]] 05:53, 16 May 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I'm not the originator either, though I really like the setting. I can't see the U.S. Govt. agreeing to this for any amount of money. However, purchasing a large tract of desert land somewhere in the U.S. might be plausible. But, think how suspicious the Govt. would be of any Xanadu survivors it doesn't have control over. If I were one of those survivors, it would certainly sound better than a FEMA trailer park. Not a good location at all for Merfolk, though ;-). Alveric 11:07am EDT, 05/16/2011</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

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