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		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Concerned_Reader/Lotka_Volterra&amp;diff=14681</id>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: Yo dawg, you gots to re-silver for ever new line.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Silver|Hullooo, CR, I just thought I&#039;d leave a message here since it looked awfully empty. Come on, other guys, come critique this or something!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|Well, actually I&#039;ve already told you what I think of the piece. It&#039;s a really neat piece, and I thought it was pretty original for the PaW universe. It&#039;s well-written and I liked the way it ran. Characters and their voices are distinctive and interesting to read. Still, I think you could elaborate a little more on the emotions Lotka feels when he encounters and glues himself to Jon; also, you could totally expand more on their relationship. There&#039;s a lot of potential for depth there! Okay, see you around. Cheers! :) }}&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Wolfy]] 04:43, 10 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Hey, thanks! Yeah, there&#039;s still a lot of character development that needs to be dispersed throughout it. I&#039;ll see what I can get done over the summer.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 05:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: categories&lt;/p&gt;
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{{universe|Pig and Whistle}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{author note|This was originally meant to be set in the Pig and Whistle story universe. I&#039;ve retooled it a bit so that it works well enough as a stand alone story so that I could use it for a Creative Writing class. Even so, I still want the characters to be available within the setting of Pig and Whistle, so just make some mental adjustments for the time being. I&#039;ve now finished a very rough draft of the story for the class, but there&#039;s still a lot missing from the bones.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;This wind is too hot.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
That was the first thought to ever enter my head. I wasn’t even really aware of myself at the time. I just knew that I had to get out of this scorching, abrasive wind. That was as far ahead as I could think. I couldn’t see past my own little world. Maybe if I’d been thinking faster I’d have noticed more than just me and my twelve inch patch of sand. Perhaps I’d have linked the sudden scorching wind with the fiery trail that split the darkening sky in half. Maybe I’d have run as far away as my four spindly legs could take me. Maybe I could have watched as twelve miles of desert floor suddenly and violently threw itself into the air. But no, I didn’t do any of those. I was too busy digging into my twelve inches of sand. The sound hit me first, like thunder made physical. The force of it drove me deeper into the sand. Everything compressed for a moment as a shiver ran through the ground, then the world turned upside down with me in the middle of it. As I tumbled through the air, the only thing I knew in that reptilian brain of mine was that, if I survived, nothing would ever be the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the time I really had no concept of what was going on. I had thoughts and feelings, but no real language or foundation to give them meaning. I’d love to tell you about that transition; going from a mindless lizard to whatever it is that I am now, but everything before this point is a blur of instinct and learned response. This is as far back as my memory goes, and even so it’s like the desert floor: changing with the slightest gust of wind. Only the tallest dunes survived intact. This is just the first dune; there were many more made after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Somehow, against all odds, I survived that first dune. My scales were cracked and burned, there was a constant ringing in my ears, and it’d be weeks before I dislodged all the sand from the creases of my spines; but I was alive. Suddenly the world was much bigger than the twelve inch patch of sand. I’d been thrown out into the world to find something that I’d never had before: an expanse of possibilities. I could do anything and everything. So of course the first thing I did was find food. The ants I found and followed served as both a delicious snack as well as a trail to a nice little rock formation. With my stomach no longer clamoring for attention, exhaustion spilled over me. I settled down comfortably among the rocks and fell asleep.&lt;br /&gt;
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Waking up during the first few weeks of my change was always very odd. The transition between sleeping and waking never used to be slow. The sand would warm my body and blood to a certain temperature and then I’d be up and running, doing whatever it was that I used to do. After the changes started, the process grew longer, like clouds were being parted in my head, letting the sun in so my mind could warm up too. I am laying in sand. The sand is warm. The wind is blowing. The air tastes fine. The sun is bright. There are no immediate threats around my rocks. That last part caught my attention. Not that there wasn’t any immediate danger; there’s always danger when you’re my size, but that these rocks were mine. I sat on that thought for a while. I had found these rocks, and even with my sand blasted senses I could tell that nothing else had laid a claim on them. Well, except for the walking buffet of ants. They were more of a bonus to go with it. These were my rocks, those were my ants, and this was my home. My Home. I liked the sound of that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whatever had happened that night, so many days ago, had affected me in more ways than I could imagine. I almost always woke up feeling hungry. I figured out later that it must have been because of how drastically my body was changing. If it takes food to make my body move, then it must take a lot of food to make my body change. That was another new step in my morning routine. Figuring out what all had changed. My arms and legs were growing longer, my body was growing wider and flatter, and my head and neck seemed to be receding. The end result being that each day it was harder and harder for me to move. Not that I had any reason to. I had My Home and My Ants right here. Everything I needed to survive. By all rights I should have been happy, and for a while I was, but for some reason food and shelter weren’t enough anymore. There was something missing, and my longing for it only grew over time. The desert felt bigger and bigger every passing day, and even though I was growing along with it, I felt smaller and smaller.&lt;br /&gt;
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I eventually met another lizard. He must have followed the trail of ants back to its source by my home. I tried to interact with him, but that’s pretty hard when you don’t quite know how to communicate. He did the standard show of dominance. Push ups and body swelling to try and look bigger and meaner. I did much the same, only I was bigger and meaner. He scuttled back a ways and I didn’t go after him. It wasn’t worth the effort. He stayed a few dozen body lengths away from my home from then on. Every now and then I’d see him flash by to grab a few ants before retreating back to his burrow. Even though he was eating my ants, I was glad for the company while it lasted. Which was until a coyote caught up to him. I watched from the safety of my rocks as the coyote devoured him. There was nothing to be done. His time was up. The coyote was bigger, faster, and stronger. That’s how things work.&lt;br /&gt;
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Life went on that same way for several more days, and I was more or less used to it by now. The dunes in my life had leveled off, so when I ran straight into what may be the biggest dune in my life, I was completely unprepared. My sleep ended abruptly. Something was wrong. I couldn’t move, I couldn’t see, and I could hardly breath. I thought that my home had caved in, the rocks and dirt crushing down on me. Each breath was pulled from my lungs as soon as I tried to inhale. Each gasp for air growing shallower than the last as my lungs ceased to function. My eyes refused to blink. I tried and tried to clear the darkness or dirt or film from my vision, but it wasn’t working. I strained and strained until  something finally shifted. Relief flooded me, until the smell of blood hit my nose. The capillaries around my eyes had ruptured for their last time, releasing my blood to run down what was left of my face. It was too much. I was ready to just give up. To stop trying. Stop breathing. Anything to end this agony. So I did. I stopped struggling. Everything shut down. I was splayed out somewhere around my little cave of a home with no connection to outward reality. For all I knew, I ceased to exist.&lt;br /&gt;
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A glimmer in the dark. Something was approaching: A blur in the darkness, blinking in and out of focus. Shimmering in the dark. I don’t know how I’d been separated from reality, but just being able to see something made my heart jump. At least as much as a heart can jump when you’re paralyzed. So I waited for whatever it was to come closer. It was all I could do anyways, but that was enough for me. The blur did come closer along a winding path. I could make out the shape of a body now, but to what sort of creature, I had no idea. It seemed to have four legs, like the coyotes that prowl around at night, but the white blur traveled along only two of it’s legs. The other two whipped back and forth through the air with every step. And every now and then its steps would bring it closer to me.&lt;br /&gt;
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The blur bent over me, and for once I could see it clearly. I still didn’t know what it was, other than it was exceedingly weird looking. I didn’t get as long a look as I would’ve liked, because my body suddenly sprang back to life and threw me directly into it. Feeling had just began to return to my body when I blacked out again.&lt;br /&gt;
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The sand cascaded down the mountain. In my mind, I mean. Like the wind had blown a bit too hard and now everything was crashing down. Then the noise hit me, as if the same wind was now screeching through the gaps in my brain. Information followed along behind the wind and began plugging up the holes. Filling the gaps and crevices. Creating connections and bridges between thoughts and ideas. The heat of a new sun waking up my body. Everything started to come together. I could feel again. Something was scratching along my body. Not quite painful, but more than uncomfortable. I could hear the scratching as well, along with a loud whistle. My eyes opened next, only they weren’t mine. I could see out of them, but I couldn’t control them. It didn’t matter to me though, I was just so happy to be able to see again. Through those eyes I saw myself for the first time. Or rather, saw the part of me that hadn’t yet been covered in dark crimson blood. My body was fused with some other creature’s. I could see the spines and spikes that used to go around my sides. They were almost entirely obscured by the congealing blood as they punctured outwards from torn pink flesh. Inside of that ring of spines the blood had been wiped away to reveal my hardened scales, but it was quickly pooling over again. I didn’t know what sort of creature I’d been embedded into, but knew I was watching through it’s eyes as it tried to tear me apart.&lt;br /&gt;
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Something clicked, and a stream of data hit my brain. Language and labels at long last formed within my mind. Human. Male. Angry. Pain. Rage. Parasite. Violation. Whoever it was that I had latched onto wasn’t happy about it. I wasn’t too thrilled myself, but it had to be better than slowly suffocating to death. I didn’t have a chance to think about it further, because his eyes suddenly darted over to a screaming tea kettle. In quick succession he grabbed a large bowl, threw in a large kitchen knife, and then poured in the boiling water. I saw all of this through his eyes, and without really being aware of it, I knew exactly what everything was. I also knew exactly what he was planning to do, and for the first time since ‘awakening,’ I was afraid.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was a lot to process. I was attached to the sternum of a very large and very angry human male who was hellbent on cutting me off of him. If he separates my body from his, his liver will cease to function and we will both die. I don’t know where the thought came from, but there it was, and I had no reason to doubt it. I didn’t much want to die so soon after my new lease on life, and I assumed that humans would have a similar ideology. So I did the only thing I could, which was try and think ‘STOP!’ as loudly as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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He stopped. Probably more out of surprise than anything else. I was so surprised myself that I forgot to keep talking. “Who’s there?” He shouted, brandishing the knife at the door, followed by each corner of the room before he returned it to point directly at me. “Now is a really shitty time, come back later!”&lt;br /&gt;
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Hearing his voice pulled me out of my reverie enough to attempt another reply in his head. “Human Man Thing, I would suggest you drop the knife unless you want to die.”&lt;br /&gt;
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He dropped the knife. Again, probably more out of surprise than fear or obedience. It stuck into the wood floor with a soft thud. He stood there for a moment, before collapsing onto his couch, breathing heavily. My body rose and fell with each of his breaths. I didn’t know what to do. It was all just so extremely different. So I just started rambling in his head.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Look, I do not quite understand it, but we are stuck together now and apparently I am your liver or something so it would probably be best for the both of us if you do not try and pry me off with sharp pointy objects otherwise I will be forced to do something drastic and more than likely unpleasant.” At least I was starting to get the hang of communication. I really hoped that he wouldn’t figure out that I couldn’t actually do anything at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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He stared at the ceiling for a moment longer, until I was just starting to see patterns in the texture, when he jumped to his feet. “No!” he shouted, as he smashed his fist into both of our bodies. It didn’t really hurt me, at least, probably not as much as he would have liked. Instead he achieved the grand total effect of knocking the wind out of himself, splashing his blood all over the floor, and cutting up the skin on his knuckles.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Aah, Fuck you!” He gasped out. I got a very good look at the carpeted floor as he doubled over wheezing.  “You fucking parasitic scum bag! Get the fuck off my chest! I swear if you gave me fucking space aids I will murder the shit out of you with your own spikey ass!”&lt;br /&gt;
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He kept up his blue streak for some time. Pacing back and forth as angry words poured out of his mouth. I was just along for the ride. He probably wouldn’t even hear anything I had to say, so I just waited until he wore himself out. When he finally ran out of steam and vitriol I spoke again. “Alright look, I do not know where you got the idea, but I am not a parasite. I am a-- I do not know fuck what I am, but If you leave me fucking alone, I will not hurt you. We have two options available. Either you succeed in tearing me from your body and we both die slow and painful deaths, or we learn to live fucking together. It is your choice.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I threw in some of the words he had used in an effort to be more convincing, but instead he just burst out laughing. I couldn’t figure out why. He’d been so angry a few moments before, and now he was almost falling over with laughter. “What is so funny?” I asked.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Holy shit, but are you fucking terrible at cursing!” How he managed to speak between laughing and inhaling I’ll never know, but at the least he wasn’t trying to murder me anymore. That was a big step up. “Oh damn,” he continued, “I’m gonna need some painkillers and something stiff to drink. This is a night to forget for sure.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I do not think it will be that easy, human. It is not like I will disappear during the night.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I have a name you know. Just call me Jon for now. It’s a lot easier for me to trust you if I don’t feel like I’m talking to a fucking robot, you know? So what should I call you?”&lt;br /&gt;
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That stopped me cold. I’d never thought about it before. I mean, I knew that everything had a name. Like we were sitting on a “couch” and that he had just tried to stab me with a “knife.” It just never occurred to me that I didn’t have a name for myself.&lt;br /&gt;
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“I-- I do not know.” The full wait of it struck me as I said it. “ I do not have a name.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Well then,” Jon exclaimed, “I guess we’re stuck together, so I’ll have to fix that. But first I’m going to take about fifty aspirin and then drink until I pass out.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon followed through on his plan down to the letter. A handful of aspirin and quite a few glasses later and he was passed out on the couch. I didn’t sleep much. Actually, I’m pretty sure I didn’t sleep at all. As Jon fell into his stupor, my connection to the outside world grew dimmer and dimmer. Again I found myself unable to see, hear, smell, or even feel. I wasn’t scared this time though. For once it felt natural, like this was how things were supposed to be. It felt like the world had finally stopped spinning around so fast. I could finally take some time to think things over. So while Jon slept off his drunken stupor, that’s exactly what I did.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, when the morning came, I was the one with the headache. Or more like a whole body ache. Every part of me that I could feel pulsed with an uncomfortable pressure, like I was a cactus that’d been over watered in a storm. Jon was in the bathroom peeling off his clothes. They’d been plastered to his body with now dried blood and sweat, and they pulled away with a nasty scratching noise, like sand rubbing against a rock. He’d removed his shirt sometime last night, but now it was laying on the bathroom counter. There was a massive tear through the middle of it, almost bisecting it horizontally. He looked from the shirt to his reflection in the mirror.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Son of a bitch,” he said, more to the air than to me, “That was my favorite shirt too.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Was that my doing?”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon looked down at me through the mirror. “Oh, you’re awake are you?” I couldn’t see his face, but his voice hardly masked the derision dripping through his teeth. “You burst through my shirt like a fucking face hugger in reverse. So yeah, you did that.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I knew what the correct response was. I was supposed to apologize, but I wasn’t feeling it. I wasn’t sorry for any of it. In fact, I’d be dead if I hadn’t done it. But, pulling from my new found social awareness, I apologized anyways. Jon grunted some sort of a response, but his attention was more or less held by the tweezers he was using to pick little bits of skin away from where my body joined his.&lt;br /&gt;
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“What did you drink last night?”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Really shitty whiskey.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Is that why I feel so horrible?”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon paused a moment to pull a particularly stubborn scrap of flesh away, wincing as it finally tore free. He threw the tweezers onto the counter and grabbed a bottle of Hydrogen Peroxide. “Yeah. It seems you’ve inherited my hangover. I guess that’s the silver lining on this fucking typhoon you dropped into my life.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I don’t really know how to reply to that. You are welcome I guess.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“This might sting a bit.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“What might--” I started, but by then he’d upended the bottle of peroxide and poured it directly onto his chest. It settled over me like the chill from a cold wind. Pins and needles trailed behind, walking across what used to be my back. “Oh. Well, that is unpleasant.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Relax, it ain’t gonna kill you. I’m just cleaning out all the bacteria and shit you probably shoved directly into my chest.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I know that much, but wouldn’t it be better to see a medical expert?”&lt;br /&gt;
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“If I had time and money, yeah. I’d have skipped fucking around with you myself and gone straight there.” Jon paused briefly to screw the cap back on the peroxide bottle before tossing it onto the counter as well. “But as it is, I’m in a bit of a rush. I don’t have time for six months of testing and scientific method bullshit or whatever the hell they’d do when they find little alien things like you.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Look, I’m not an alien. I have told you that before. I mean, I know that I’m a bit of an anomaly, but as far as I know Earth is my home. You have to understand, I have no idea what I’m doing, nor what’s going on outside of this room. This is probably just as new for me as it is for you.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Alright, fair enough. At the least you don’t seem to be malicious, or malignant, or whatever the fuck ‘m’ word that is. Now can you shut up for a while? I’m gonna take a shower and it’ll be awkward enough as it is.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I spent the next few days learning as much as I could from wherever I could. This proved difficult, as I could only learn from what Jon read or watched at the end of the day. It probably would’ve been much easier if Jon could have helped me out more, but he hadn’t been lying when he said he was in a rush. Turns out he was a detective of some sort. He’d spent the last three months chasing after some guy because he’d killed a couple of people. Personally, I didn’t really see why it mattered. Out in the desert, the strongest survive. You have to be stronger than everything. Stronger than the elements, stronger than the predators, and stronger than your competitors. If you aren’t strong enough, then you end up dead. It’s how life works. But Jon had it in his head that this guy was in the wrong. He was going after him no matter what, and I was just along for the ride. So I could only hope that Jon was a stronger predator.&lt;br /&gt;
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It’d been another long day in the small desert town Jon had set up in, and not just because the days were physically longer. I’d learned that from a book Jon had read the day before. It said that the days get longer during the summer because the Earth tilts one side towards it, which means Jon and I were out scouring for clues, signs, and signals under the scorching sun for more than twelve hours. So, as had become his habit, Jon collapsed on the couch. Today must have been extra grueling, because he was so exhausted that he left the TV on. I didn’t sleep much anymore, but when Jon goes to sleep my vision shuts down. That doesn’t mean I can’t see anything, it just means I can’t see outside of his head.&lt;br /&gt;
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I can’t sleep or dream, but Jon can. Usually when I see his dreams they’re disjointed and fanciful. Dreams are the virtual representation of the brain sorting through information. I learned that from the Discovery Channel. They don’t always make sense when you look back over them. Especially for me, since all I can experience are the sights and feelings. Only, this one was different. I don’t know if it was because of the TV or in spite of it, but this dream was much more focused. I wasn’t just a disembodied spectator this time. This time I was there, on his chest, just as I am today. Only Jon wasn’t the same. He was much younger.&lt;br /&gt;
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From what I’d seen on TV, Jon had to be about twelve years old. He was playing with who I can only assume was his brother. They looked almost exactly alike, though Jon was slightly older. This part of human development always confused me. I could barely remember it, but I had a few hatch mates when I was much younger. We separated as soon as possible. Grouping together was a great way to be noticed and picked off by predators. I guess that doesn’t matter as much when you’re at the top of the food chain.&lt;br /&gt;
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The scene changed. I don’t even remember when or how, but it changed and Jon was older again. Not as old as he is now, but older than before. His brother was there as well. He looked completely different. His hair was long and nasty, like he’d dipped it in muddy water. The rest of him looked like it’d gone through the same treatment. I don’t know how I knew it was him, but I just knew.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon was clearly unhappy about something his brother had done, and it had something to do with the plastic bag on the table. His motions were frantic and animated. Arms waving and pointing and gesturing between his brother and the bag, while his brother just stood there indifferent. Jon continued his tirade for a moment longer, until his rage crossed the breaking point. He grabbed the plastic bag and threw it at his brother. It burst open in a shower of powdery white as Jon turned his back.&lt;br /&gt;
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The scene changed again. The white powder swirled around, morphing into cold white snow. Jon and I stood alone in a crowd of people. Everyone was wearing black, and when Jon looked down to check his watch, I noticed that he was too. His brother was there as well. He looked much cleaner, with the exception of his hair, and was dressed in the same black clothes. I  would have thought him asleep had someone not closed the casket.&lt;br /&gt;
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A deep sadness washed over me as he was lowered into the ground, and I couldn’t quite figure out why. This was a man that I hardly knew, and yet I’d grown to care for him. I don’t know if it was Jon’s influence or not, but that was when everything started to become clear.&lt;br /&gt;
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Again the scene shifted, but this time it went straight to black. Like the end of those old movies I’d watched. I half expected credits to start rolling, but instead a voice cut through the black. “I could have saved him, you know.”&lt;br /&gt;
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It startled me. I was so used to the silent nature of Jon’s dreams that it took me several moments to realize that Jon was the one talking. He continued, “I could have saved him from his own fucking stupidity.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I didn’t know what to say. Hell, I hardly knew what I’d just witnessed. So I asked. “What happened? How did he die?”&lt;br /&gt;
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A dim yellow glow slowly lit up the scene. A single bulb slowly swinging in small circles above an ill kept bar. It was then that I noticed that I was looking directly at Jon for the first time. I wasn’t seeing through his eyes, but looking directly at him as he slumped dejectedly on his stool. I looked down, confused, and saw that I was a lizard again, occupying the stool next to him. He looked over, slightly confused, then shrugged and took a long drink of what I can only assume was mostly alcohol.&lt;br /&gt;
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“I fucked up is what happened. I should have had his back. I should have fucking been there for him.” Jon started. He didn’t get far before he took another drink. “Ah, fucking hell. He fucked up too. He was so fucking deep undercover even I couldn’t tell who he was anymore.” He took another drink while I thought about what to say.&lt;br /&gt;
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I still had no idea what was going on, but then I remembered that detective movie Jon and I had watched a few nights ago, and everything fell into place. “Wait... Was your brother a detective too? Undercover like Billy in The Departed?”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon slammed his empty glass down and turned to face me. His face was splotched red, as if trying to decide between anger or sadness. I’m not sure which won. “Ha! Yeah, something like that. He was undercover all right, trying to catch some big fucking drug lord or some shit. Until he got addicted to the same shit he was trying to bust. I told him he was in too deep, but he wouldn’t fucking listen. Next thing I know he’s fucking dead. Shot in the back.”&lt;br /&gt;
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He picked up his glass again as if to drink, noticed it was empty, then slammed it back down. With his alcohol supply gone, Jon grabbed his coat and stumbled to his feet, turning to face the door. I wasn’t sure what to do. There was no way I’d be able to catch up to him with my little body, but then he turned once more and spoke. “He had a life ahead of him, you know? He coulda been better than me. Hell, he already was better than me. So now I have to be better for the both of us. You see? I’ve gotta fill in his shoes.”&lt;br /&gt;
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With that, he turned and walked out the door. It slammed shut behind him and everything went black again. I sat on that stool in the darkness for a while. I had hardly noticed it, but I was crying. I didn’t even know I could cry, but dreams are weird like that. They help you learn about yourself, even if they aren’t quite your own. Jon woke up a few hours later, sweaty and disgruntled, but didn’t seem to realize what I’d seen in his head. Just before he turned the TV off, I heard one last line of dialog that’s stuck with me ever since.&lt;br /&gt;
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“In 900 years time, I’ve never met anybody that wasn’t important.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon hit a break a few days later. Everything he’d been chasing for the past three months fell into place. I could feel his body reverberating with excitement. It seemed to be coming from every part of him, like the air crackles with energy before a storm. Something was brewing inside of him. Something fierce. Every now and then I could feel it pulse, and a couple of stray thoughts would drift over to me from Jon. That wasn’t anything out of the ordinary though. Over the course of the week he and I had grown used to each other. Though I never got as deep in his head as I had that one night, I’d still get something whenever his emotions peaked. Usually it was basic, like fear, happiness, anger, sadness, or excitement, but this time there was something else layered in there. Something I’d never received before. Whatever it was, It was strong, and felt a lot like the rage he’d had when we first met. It worried me.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Hey, Jon.” I said, “Are you alright?” He didn’t answer right away, but kept creeping down the long back alley we’d entered just a few minutes before. Every now and then his eyes would dart between the dumpsters that lined the alley, and the closed back doors of the shops that we walked past. None of them were open this early in the morning, but that didn’t stop us from being on edge. The moment you stop actively looking for predators is usually the moment they choose to strike.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Look, Jon,” I tried again, “I know you’re a strong predator and all, but you’re bouncing around inside more than a weed in the breeze. Don’t forget that my life is on the line right next to yours. I’d rather not die here because you’re getting jittery while hunting someone that you don’t really need to catch.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon sighed out loud, quietly, and then replied to me directly with his thoughts. “It ain’t that easy, Lotka, alright?” He’d taken to calling me Lotka a few days ago. Something he’d found while researching whatever the hell I was supposed to be. “I’ve told you before, this is something I gotta do. Don’t worry about it, I know what I’m doing. I haven’t been killed yet, and I ain’t gonna die today.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I hope you’re right, for both our sakes.” He knew as well as I did that pretty much the only thing I could do was worry about it. There was nothing I could do to stop him. He continued on past more and more doors, until we reached the oddly cheerful rear entrance to Po’s Pipe Emporium. A squat painted face grinned down at us from the window, smoke rings frozen in place above his pipe. Jon carefully picked the door’s lock under his watchful gaze. Five faint clicks and we were inside. He closed the door silently behind us and continued into the dark storeroom. The room was humid, and stacks of boxes and bags lined the walls. Jon went directly to the nearest stack of bags and began checking labels. They were all full of different types of tobacco.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;What exactly are we looking for here?” I asked as he tossed yet another bag into a different pile.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Remember that call I got yesterday? The lab tests came back for those tobacco fibers on the handkerchief. This is the only shop in the area that sells Francis Lacquers, and it just happens to be near a sediment deposit that matches the stains left near the last two bodies. That sediment is the whole fucking reason I’m in the damn town. Now I’ve got somewhere specific to look.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“So we’re looking for Francis Lacquers?” I replied. “You’ve thrown at least two bags of it already.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Oh hell no, that shit just pointed me in the right direction. I’m looking for much harder stuff.” Jon threw another bag, then wiped his forehead. His body still rippled with excitement. “You’ll find weed in just about any smoke shop, but heroin? Most of them ain’t that fucking stupid, unless they’ve got some ‘protection’.” Jon grabbed another bag, but stopped before throwing it. He shook it a few times, and I could feel his grin sink through his body.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Did you find something?” I asked, as Jon pulled out his knife and sank it into the bag. He slashed it open and the dried tobacco poured out, followed by another, smaller, plastic bag filled with a white crumbling powder.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Jackpot,” he replied, “Looks like Po’s running a front. Let’s just hope--” Light flooded the room, and Jon instantly dove behind one of the stacks of tobacco. His heart beat pounded in my head, and a cold flush passed through his body.  “Fuck!” He drew his revolver. “I guess we’re doing this now.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Everything seemed to slow down, I could hear shouts coming from the opposite side of the warehouse, I could hear the slapping of approaching footsteps, but most of all, I could hear Jon’s heart pounding in my head. Not just it’s beating, but it’s feelings as well. It’s scream echoed across my mind. One feeling, the same one I’d felt earlier, only much stronger. Revenge. This was personal. It finally all made sense. The white powder, Jon’s brother, a murderer. They were all locked together, and Jon was the key. Suddenly I wanted this guy dead just as much as Jon.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Jon--”&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Not a good time Lotka.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“No, I know, but I understand. I get it. So good luck and be careful.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I’m always careful, now shut up. I’ve got a murdering bastard to catch.”&lt;br /&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: Major update&lt;/p&gt;
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{{author note|This was originally meant to be set in the Pig and Whistle story universe. I&#039;ve retooled it a bit so that it works well enough as a stand alone story so that I could use it for a Creative Writing class. Even so, I still want the characters to be available within the setting of Pig and Whistle, so just make some mental adjustments for the time being. I&#039;ve now finished a very rough draft of the story for the class, but there&#039;s still a lot missing from the bones.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;This wind is too hot.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
That was the first thought to ever enter my head. I wasn’t even really aware of myself at the time. I just knew that I had to get out of this scorching, abrasive wind. That was as far ahead as I could think. I couldn’t see past my own little world. Maybe if I’d been thinking faster I’d have noticed more than just me and my twelve inch patch of sand. Perhaps I’d have linked the sudden scorching wind with the fiery trail that split the darkening sky in half. Maybe I’d have run as far away as my four spindly legs could take me. Maybe I could have watched as twelve miles of desert floor suddenly and violently threw itself into the air. But no, I didn’t do any of those. I was too busy digging into my twelve inches of sand. The sound hit me first, like thunder made physical. The force of it drove me deeper into the sand. Everything compressed for a moment as a shiver ran through the ground, then the world turned upside down with me in the middle of it. As I tumbled through the air, the only thing I knew in that reptilian brain of mine was that, if I survived, nothing would ever be the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the time I really had no concept of what was going on. I had thoughts and feelings, but no real language or foundation to give them meaning. I’d love to tell you about that transition; going from a mindless lizard to whatever it is that I am now, but everything before this point is a blur of instinct and learned response. This is as far back as my memory goes, and even so it’s like the desert floor: changing with the slightest gust of wind. Only the tallest dunes survived intact. This is just the first dune; there were many more made after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Somehow, against all odds, I survived that first dune. My scales were cracked and burned, there was a constant ringing in my ears, and it’d be weeks before I dislodged all the sand from the creases of my spines; but I was alive. Suddenly the world was much bigger than the twelve inch patch of sand. I’d been thrown out into the world to find something that I’d never had before: an expanse of possibilities. I could do anything and everything. So of course the first thing I did was find food. The ants I found and followed served as both a delicious snack as well as a trail to a nice little rock formation. With my stomach no longer clamoring for attention, exhaustion spilled over me. I settled down comfortably among the rocks and fell asleep.&lt;br /&gt;
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Waking up during the first few weeks of my change was always very odd. The transition between sleeping and waking never used to be slow. The sand would warm my body and blood to a certain temperature and then I’d be up and running, doing whatever it was that I used to do. After the changes started, the process grew longer, like clouds were being parted in my head, letting the sun in so my mind could warm up too. I am laying in sand. The sand is warm. The wind is blowing. The air tastes fine. The sun is bright. There are no immediate threats around my rocks. That last part caught my attention. Not that there wasn’t any immediate danger; there’s always danger when you’re my size, but that these rocks were mine. I sat on that thought for a while. I had found these rocks, and even with my sand blasted senses I could tell that nothing else had laid a claim on them. Well, except for the walking buffet of ants. They were more of a bonus to go with it. These were my rocks, those were my ants, and this was my home. My Home. I liked the sound of that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whatever had happened that night, so many days ago, had affected me in more ways than I could imagine. I almost always woke up feeling hungry. I figured out later that it must have been because of how drastically my body was changing. If it takes food to make my body move, then it must take a lot of food to make my body change. That was another new step in my morning routine. Figuring out what all had changed. My arms and legs were growing longer, my body was growing wider and flatter, and my head and neck seemed to be receding. The end result being that each day it was harder and harder for me to move. Not that I had any reason to. I had My Home and My Ants right here. Everything I needed to survive. By all rights I should have been happy, and for a while I was, but for some reason food and shelter weren’t enough anymore. There was something missing, and my longing for it only grew over time. The desert felt bigger and bigger every passing day, and even though I was growing along with it, I felt smaller and smaller.&lt;br /&gt;
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I eventually met another lizard. He must have followed the trail of ants back to its source by my home. I tried to interact with him, but that’s pretty hard when you don’t quite know how to communicate. He did the standard show of dominance. Push ups and body swelling to try and look bigger and meaner. I did much the same, only I was bigger and meaner. He scuttled back a ways and I didn’t go after him. It wasn’t worth the effort. He stayed a few dozen body lengths away from my home from then on. Every now and then I’d see him flash by to grab a few ants before retreating back to his burrow. Even though he was eating my ants, I was glad for the company while it lasted. Which was until a coyote caught up to him. I watched from the safety of my rocks as the coyote devoured him. There was nothing to be done. His time was up. The coyote was bigger, faster, and stronger. That’s how things work.&lt;br /&gt;
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Life went on that same way for several more days, and I was more or less used to it by now. The dunes in my life had leveled off, so when I ran straight into what may be the biggest dune in my life, I was completely unprepared. My sleep ended abruptly. Something was wrong. I couldn’t move, I couldn’t see, and I could hardly breath. I thought that my home had caved in, the rocks and dirt crushing down on me. Each breath was pulled from my lungs as soon as I tried to inhale. Each gasp for air growing shallower than the last as my lungs ceased to function. My eyes refused to blink. I tried and tried to clear the darkness or dirt or film from my vision, but it wasn’t working. I strained and strained until  something finally shifted. Relief flooded me, until the smell of blood hit my nose. The capillaries around my eyes had ruptured for their last time, releasing my blood to run down what was left of my face. It was too much. I was ready to just give up. To stop trying. Stop breathing. Anything to end this agony. So I did. I stopped struggling. Everything shut down. I was splayed out somewhere around my little cave of a home with no connection to outward reality. For all I knew, I ceased to exist.&lt;br /&gt;
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A glimmer in the dark. Something was approaching: A blur in the darkness, blinking in and out of focus. Shimmering in the dark. I don’t know how I’d been separated from reality, but just being able to see something made my heart jump. At least as much as a heart can jump when you’re paralyzed. So I waited for whatever it was to come closer. It was all I could do anyways, but that was enough for me. The blur did come closer along a winding path. I could make out the shape of a body now, but to what sort of creature, I had no idea. It seemed to have four legs, like the coyotes that prowl around at night, but the white blur traveled along only two of it’s legs. The other two whipped back and forth through the air with every step. And every now and then its steps would bring it closer to me.&lt;br /&gt;
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The blur bent over me, and for once I could see it clearly. I still didn’t know what it was, other than it was exceedingly weird looking. I didn’t get as long a look as I would’ve liked, because my body suddenly sprang back to life and threw me directly into it. Feeling had just began to return to my body when I blacked out again.&lt;br /&gt;
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The sand cascaded down the mountain. In my mind, I mean. Like the wind had blown a bit too hard and now everything was crashing down. Then the noise hit me, as if the same wind was now screeching through the gaps in my brain. Information followed along behind the wind and began plugging up the holes. Filling the gaps and crevices. Creating connections and bridges between thoughts and ideas. The heat of a new sun waking up my body. Everything started to come together. I could feel again. Something was scratching along my body. Not quite painful, but more than uncomfortable. I could hear the scratching as well, along with a loud whistle. My eyes opened next, only they weren’t mine. I could see out of them, but I couldn’t control them. It didn’t matter to me though, I was just so happy to be able to see again. Through those eyes I saw myself for the first time. Or rather, saw the part of me that hadn’t yet been covered in dark crimson blood. My body was fused with some other creature’s. I could see the spines and spikes that used to go around my sides. They were almost entirely obscured by the congealing blood as they punctured outwards from torn pink flesh. Inside of that ring of spines the blood had been wiped away to reveal my hardened scales, but it was quickly pooling over again. I didn’t know what sort of creature I’d been embedded into, but knew I was watching through it’s eyes as it tried to tear me apart.&lt;br /&gt;
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Something clicked, and a stream of data hit my brain. Language and labels at long last formed within my mind. Human. Male. Angry. Pain. Rage. Parasite. Violation. Whoever it was that I had latched onto wasn’t happy about it. I wasn’t too thrilled myself, but it had to be better than slowly suffocating to death. I didn’t have a chance to think about it further, because his eyes suddenly darted over to a screaming tea kettle. In quick succession he grabbed a large bowl, threw in a large kitchen knife, and then poured in the boiling water. I saw all of this through his eyes, and without really being aware of it, I knew exactly what everything was. I also knew exactly what he was planning to do, and for the first time since ‘awakening,’ I was afraid.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was a lot to process. I was attached to the sternum of a very large and very angry human male who was hellbent on cutting me off of him. If he separates my body from his, his liver will cease to function and we will both die. I don’t know where the thought came from, but there it was, and I had no reason to doubt it. I didn’t much want to die so soon after my new lease on life, and I assumed that humans would have a similar ideology. So I did the only thing I could, which was try and think ‘STOP!’ as loudly as possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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He stopped. Probably more out of surprise than anything else. I was so surprised myself that I forgot to keep talking. “Who’s there?” He shouted, brandishing the knife at the door, followed by each corner of the room before he returned it to point directly at me. “Now is a really shitty time, come back later!”&lt;br /&gt;
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Hearing his voice pulled me out of my reverie enough to attempt another reply in his head. “Human Man Thing, I would suggest you drop the knife unless you want to die.”&lt;br /&gt;
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He dropped the knife. Again, probably more out of surprise than fear or obedience. It stuck into the wood floor with a soft thud. He stood there for a moment, before collapsing onto his couch, breathing heavily. My body rose and fell with each of his breaths. I didn’t know what to do. It was all just so extremely different. So I just started rambling in his head.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Look, I do not quite understand it, but we are stuck together now and apparently I am your liver or something so it would probably be best for the both of us if you do not try and pry me off with sharp pointy objects otherwise I will be forced to do something drastic and more than likely unpleasant.” At least I was starting to get the hang of communication. I really hoped that he wouldn’t figure out that I couldn’t actually do anything at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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He stared at the ceiling for a moment longer, until I was just starting to see patterns in the texture, when he jumped to his feet. “No!” he shouted, as he smashed his fist into both of our bodies. It didn’t really hurt me, at least, probably not as much as he would have liked. Instead he achieved the grand total effect of knocking the wind out of himself, splashing his blood all over the floor, and cutting up the skin on his knuckles.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Aah, Fuck you!” He gasped out. I got a very good look at the carpeted floor as he doubled over wheezing.  “You fucking parasitic scum bag! Get the fuck off my chest! I swear if you gave me fucking space aids I will murder the shit out of you with your own spikey ass!”&lt;br /&gt;
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He kept up his blue streak for some time. Pacing back and forth as angry words poured out of his mouth. I was just along for the ride. He probably wouldn’t even hear anything I had to say, so I just waited until he wore himself out. When he finally ran out of steam and vitriol I spoke again. “Alright look, I do not know where you got the idea, but I am not a parasite. I am a-- I do not know fuck what I am, but If you leave me fucking alone, I will not hurt you. We have two options available. Either you succeed in tearing me from your body and we both die slow and painful deaths, or we learn to live fucking together. It is your choice.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I threw in some of the words he had used in an effort to be more convincing, but instead he just burst out laughing. I couldn’t figure out why. He’d been so angry a few moments before, and now he was almost falling over with laughter. “What is so funny?” I asked.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Holy shit, but are you fucking terrible at cursing!” How he managed to speak between laughing and inhaling I’ll never know, but at the least he wasn’t trying to murder me anymore. That was a big step up. “Oh damn,” he continued, “I’m gonna need some painkillers and something stiff to drink. This is a night to forget for sure.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I do not think it will be that easy, human. It is not like I will disappear during the night.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I have a name you know. Just call me Jon for now. It’s a lot easier for me to trust you if I don’t feel like I’m talking to a fucking robot, you know? So what should I call you?”&lt;br /&gt;
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That stopped me cold. I’d never thought about it before. I mean, I knew that everything had a name. Like we were sitting on a “couch” and that he had just tried to stab me with a “knife.” It just never occurred to me that I didn’t have a name for myself.&lt;br /&gt;
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“I-- I do not know.” The full wait of it struck me as I said it. “ I do not have a name.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Well then,” Jon exclaimed, “I guess we’re stuck together, so I’ll have to fix that. But first I’m going to take about fifty aspirin and then drink until I pass out.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon followed through on his plan down to the letter. A handful of aspirin and quite a few glasses later and he was passed out on the couch. I didn’t sleep much. Actually, I’m pretty sure I didn’t sleep at all. As Jon fell into his stupor, my connection to the outside world grew dimmer and dimmer. Again I found myself unable to see, hear, smell, or even feel. I wasn’t scared this time though. For once it felt natural, like this was how things were supposed to be. It felt like the world had finally stopped spinning around so fast. I could finally take some time to think things over. So while Jon slept off his drunken stupor, that’s exactly what I did.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, when the morning came, I was the one with the headache. Or more like a whole body ache. Every part of me that I could feel pulsed with an uncomfortable pressure, like I was a cactus that’d been over watered in a storm. Jon was in the bathroom peeling off his clothes. They’d been plastered to his body with now dried blood and sweat, and they pulled away with a nasty scratching noise, like sand rubbing against a rock. He’d removed his shirt sometime last night, but now it was laying on the bathroom counter. There was a massive tear through the middle of it, almost bisecting it horizontally. He looked from the shirt to his reflection in the mirror.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Son of a bitch,” he said, more to the air than to me, “That was my favorite shirt too.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Was that my doing?”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon looked down at me through the mirror. “Oh, you’re awake are you?” I couldn’t see his face, but his voice hardly masked the derision dripping through his teeth. “You burst through my shirt like a fucking face hugger in reverse. So yeah, you did that.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I knew what the correct response was. I was supposed to apologize, but I wasn’t feeling it. I wasn’t sorry for any of it. In fact, I’d be dead if I hadn’t done it. But, pulling from my new found social awareness, I apologized anyways. Jon grunted some sort of a response, but his attention was more or less held by the tweezers he was using to pick little bits of skin away from where my body joined his.&lt;br /&gt;
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“What did you drink last night?”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Really shitty whiskey.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Is that why I feel so horrible?”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon paused a moment to pull a particularly stubborn scrap of flesh away, wincing as it finally tore free. He threw the tweezers onto the counter and grabbed a bottle of Hydrogen Peroxide. “Yeah. It seems you’ve inherited my hangover. I guess that’s the silver lining on this fucking typhoon you dropped into my life.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I don’t really know how to reply to that. You are welcome I guess.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“This might sting a bit.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“What might--” I started, but by then he’d upended the bottle of peroxide and poured it directly onto his chest. It settled over me like the chill from a cold wind. Pins and needles trailed behind, walking across what used to be my back. “Oh. Well, that is unpleasant.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Relax, it ain’t gonna kill you. I’m just cleaning out all the bacteria and shit you probably shoved directly into my chest.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I know that much, but wouldn’t it be better to see a medical expert?”&lt;br /&gt;
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“If I had time and money, yeah. I’d have skipped fucking around with you myself and gone straight there.” Jon paused briefly to screw the cap back on the peroxide bottle before tossing it onto the counter as well. “But as it is, I’m in a bit of a rush. I don’t have time for six months of testing and scientific method bullshit or whatever the hell they’d do when they find little alien things like you.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Look, I’m not an alien. I have told you that before. I mean, I know that I’m a bit of an anomaly, but as far as I know Earth is my home. You have to understand, I have no idea what I’m doing, nor what’s going on outside of this room. This is probably just as new for me as it is for you.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Alright, fair enough. At the least you don’t seem to be malicious, or malignant, or whatever the fuck ‘m’ word that is. Now can you shut up for a while? I’m gonna take a shower and it’ll be awkward enough as it is.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I spent the next few days learning as much as I could from wherever I could. This proved difficult, as I could only learn from what Jon read or watched at the end of the day. It probably would’ve been much easier if Jon could have helped me out more, but he hadn’t been lying when he said he was in a rush. Turns out he was a detective of some sort. He’d spent the last three months chasing after some guy because he’d killed a couple of people. Personally, I didn’t really see why it mattered. Out in the desert, the strongest survive. You have to be stronger than everything. Stronger than the elements, stronger than the predators, and stronger than your competitors. If you aren’t strong enough, then you end up dead. It’s how life works. But Jon had it in his head that this guy was in the wrong. He was going after him no matter what, and I was just along for the ride. So I could only hope that Jon was a stronger predator.&lt;br /&gt;
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It’d been another long day in the small desert town Jon had set up in, and not just because the days were physically longer. I’d learned that from a book Jon had read the day before. It said that the days get longer during the summer because the Earth tilts one side towards it, which means Jon and I were out scouring for clues, signs, and signals under the scorching sun for more than twelve hours. So, as had become his habit, Jon collapsed on the couch. Today must have been extra grueling, because he was so exhausted that he left the TV on. I didn’t sleep much anymore, but when Jon goes to sleep my vision shuts down. That doesn’t mean I can’t see anything, it just means I can’t see outside of his head.&lt;br /&gt;
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I can’t sleep or dream, but Jon can. Usually when I see his dreams they’re disjointed and fanciful. Dreams are the virtual representation of the brain sorting through information. I learned that from the Discovery Channel. They don’t always make sense when you look back over them. Especially for me, since all I can experience are the sights and feelings. Only, this one was different. I don’t know if it was because of the TV or in spite of it, but this dream was much more focused. I wasn’t just a disembodied spectator this time. This time I was there, on his chest, just as I am today. Only Jon wasn’t the same. He was much younger.&lt;br /&gt;
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From what I’d seen on TV, Jon had to be about twelve years old. He was playing with who I can only assume was his brother. They looked almost exactly alike, though Jon was slightly older. This part of human development always confused me. I could barely remember it, but I had a few hatch mates when I was much younger. We separated as soon as possible. Grouping together was a great way to be noticed and picked off by predators. I guess that doesn’t matter as much when you’re at the top of the food chain.&lt;br /&gt;
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The scene changed. I don’t even remember when or how, but it changed and Jon was older again. Not as old as he is now, but older than before. His brother was there as well. He looked completely different. His hair was long and nasty, like he’d dipped it in muddy water. The rest of him looked like it’d gone through the same treatment. I don’t know how I knew it was him, but I just knew.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon was clearly unhappy about something his brother had done, and it had something to do with the plastic bag on the table. His motions were frantic and animated. Arms waving and pointing and gesturing between his brother and the bag, while his brother just stood there indifferent. Jon continued his tirade for a moment longer, until his rage crossed the breaking point. He grabbed the plastic bag and threw it at his brother. It burst open in a shower of powdery white as Jon turned his back.&lt;br /&gt;
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The scene changed again. The white powder swirled around, morphing into cold white snow. Jon and I stood alone in a crowd of people. Everyone was wearing black, and when Jon looked down to check his watch, I noticed that he was too. His brother was there as well. He looked much cleaner, with the exception of his hair, and was dressed in the same black clothes. I  would have thought him asleep had someone not closed the casket.&lt;br /&gt;
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A deep sadness washed over me as he was lowered into the ground, and I couldn’t quite figure out why. This was a man that I hardly knew, and yet I’d grown to care for him. I don’t know if it was Jon’s influence or not, but that was when everything started to become clear.&lt;br /&gt;
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Again the scene shifted, but this time it went straight to black. Like the end of those old movies I’d watched. I half expected credits to start rolling, but instead a voice cut through the black. “I could have saved him, you know.”&lt;br /&gt;
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It startled me. I was so used to the silent nature of Jon’s dreams that it took me several moments to realize that Jon was the one talking. He continued, “I could have saved him from his own fucking stupidity.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I didn’t know what to say. Hell, I hardly knew what I’d just witnessed. So I asked. “What happened? How did he die?”&lt;br /&gt;
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A dim yellow glow slowly lit up the scene. A single bulb slowly swinging in small circles above an ill kept bar. It was then that I noticed that I was looking directly at Jon for the first time. I wasn’t seeing through his eyes, but looking directly at him as he slumped dejectedly on his stool. I looked down, confused, and saw that I was a lizard again, occupying the stool next to him. He looked over, slightly confused, then shrugged and took a long drink of what I can only assume was mostly alcohol.&lt;br /&gt;
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“I fucked up is what happened. I should have had his back. I should have fucking been there for him.” Jon started. He didn’t get far before he took another drink. “Ah, fucking hell. He fucked up too. He was so fucking deep undercover even I couldn’t tell who he was anymore.” He took another drink while I thought about what to say.&lt;br /&gt;
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I still had no idea what was going on, but then I remembered that detective movie Jon and I had watched a few nights ago, and everything fell into place. “Wait... Was your brother a detective too? Undercover like Billy in The Departed?”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon slammed his empty glass down and turned to face me. His face was splotched red, as if trying to decide between anger or sadness. I’m not sure which won. “Ha! Yeah, something like that. He was undercover all right, trying to catch some big fucking drug lord or some shit. Until he got addicted to the same shit he was trying to bust. I told him he was in too deep, but he wouldn’t fucking listen. Next thing I know he’s fucking dead. Shot in the back.”&lt;br /&gt;
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He picked up his glass again as if to drink, noticed it was empty, then slammed it back down. With his alcohol supply gone, Jon grabbed his coat and stumbled to his feet, turning to face the door. I wasn’t sure what to do. There was no way I’d be able to catch up to him with my little body, but then he turned once more and spoke. “He had a life ahead of him, you know? He coulda been better than me. Hell, he already was better than me. So now I have to be better for the both of us. You see? I’ve gotta fill in his shoes.”&lt;br /&gt;
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With that, he turned and walked out the door. It slammed shut behind him and everything went black again. I sat on that stool in the darkness for a while. I had hardly noticed it, but I was crying. I didn’t even know I could cry, but dreams are weird like that. They help you learn about yourself, even if they aren’t quite your own. Jon woke up a few hours later, sweaty and disgruntled, but didn’t seem to realize what I’d seen in his head. Just before he turned the TV off, I heard one last line of dialog that’s stuck with me ever since.&lt;br /&gt;
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“In 900 years time, I’ve never met anybody that wasn’t important.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon hit a break a few days later. Everything he’d been chasing for the past three months fell into place. I could feel his body reverberating with excitement. It seemed to be coming from every part of him, like the air crackles with energy before a storm. Something was brewing inside of him. Something fierce. Every now and then I could feel it pulse, and a couple of stray thoughts would drift over to me from Jon. That wasn’t anything out of the ordinary though. Over the course of the week he and I had grown used to each other. Though I never got as deep in his head as I had that one night, I’d still get something whenever his emotions peaked. Usually it was basic, like fear, happiness, anger, sadness, or excitement, but this time there was something else layered in there. Something I’d never received before. Whatever it was, It was strong, and felt a lot like the rage he’d had when we first met. It worried me.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Hey, Jon.” I said, “Are you alright?” He didn’t answer right away, but kept creeping down the long back alley we’d entered just a few minutes before. Every now and then his eyes would dart between the dumpsters that lined the alley, and the closed back doors of the shops that we walked past. None of them were open this early in the morning, but that didn’t stop us from being on edge. The moment you stop actively looking for predators is usually the moment they choose to strike.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Look, Jon,” I tried again, “I know you’re a strong predator and all, but you’re bouncing around inside more than a weed in the breeze. Don’t forget that my life is on the line right next to yours. I’d rather not die here because you’re getting jittery while hunting someone that you don’t really need to catch.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon sighed out loud, quietly, and then replied to me directly with his thoughts. “It ain’t that easy, Lotka, alright?” He’d taken to calling me Lotka a few days ago. Something he’d found while researching whatever the hell I was supposed to be. “I’ve told you before, this is something I gotta do. Don’t worry about it, I know what I’m doing. I haven’t been killed yet, and I ain’t gonna die today.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I hope you’re right, for both our sakes.” He knew as well as I did that pretty much the only thing I could do was worry about it. There was nothing I could do to stop him. He continued on past more and more doors, until we reached the oddly cheerful rear entrance to Po’s Pipe Emporium. A squat painted face grinned down at us from the window, smoke rings frozen in place above his pipe. Jon carefully picked the door’s lock under his watchful gaze. Five faint clicks and we were inside. He closed the door silently behind us and continued into the dark storeroom. The room was humid, and stacks of boxes and bags lined the walls. Jon went directly to the nearest stack of bags and began checking labels. They were all full of different types of tobacco.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;What exactly are we looking for here?” I asked as he tossed yet another bag into a different pile.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Remember that call I got yesterday? The lab tests came back for those tobacco fibers on the handkerchief. This is the only shop in the area that sells Francis Lacquers, and it just happens to be near a sediment deposit that matches the stains left near the last two bodies. That sediment is the whole fucking reason I’m in the damn town. Now I’ve got somewhere specific to look.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“So we’re looking for Francis Lacquers?” I replied. “You’ve thrown at least two bags of it already.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Oh hell no, that shit just pointed me in the right direction. I’m looking for much harder stuff.” Jon threw another bag, then wiped his forehead. His body still rippled with excitement. “You’ll find weed in just about any smoke shop, but heroin? Most of them ain’t that fucking stupid, unless they’ve got some ‘protection’.” Jon grabbed another bag, but stopped before throwing it. He shook it a few times, and I could feel his grin sink through his body.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Did you find something?” I asked, as Jon pulled out his knife and sank it into the bag. He slashed it open and the dried tobacco poured out, followed by another, smaller, plastic bag filled with a white crumbling powder.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Jackpot,” he replied, “Looks like Po’s running a front. Let’s just hope--” Light flooded the room, and Jon instantly dove behind one of the stacks of tobacco. His heart beat pounded in my head, and a cold flush passed through his body.  “Fuck!” He drew his revolver. “I guess we’re doing this now.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Everything seemed to slow down, I could hear shouts coming from the opposite side of the warehouse, I could hear the slapping of approaching footsteps, but most of all, I could hear Jon’s heart pounding in my head. Not just it’s beating, but it’s feelings as well. It’s scream echoed across my mind. One feeling, the same one I’d felt earlier, only much stronger. Revenge. This was personal. It finally all made sense. The white powder, Jon’s brother, a murderer. They were all locked together, and Jon was the key. Suddenly I wanted this guy dead just as much as Jon.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Jon--”&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Not a good time Lotka.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“No, I know, but I understand. I get it. So good luck and be careful.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I’m always careful, now shut up. I’ve got a murdering bastard to catch.”&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: Another chunk down.&lt;/p&gt;
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{{author note|This was originally meant to be set in the Pig and Whistle story universe. I&#039;ve retooled it a bit so that it works well enough as a stand alone story so that I could use it for a Creative Writing class. Even so, I still want the characters to be available within the setting of Pig and Whistle, so just make some mental adjustments for the time being. This is only half of the story, as I still have yet to completely finish the other half, but expect the rest soon enough.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;This wind is too hot.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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	That was the first thought to ever enter my head. I wasn’t even really aware of myself at the time. I just knew that I had to get out of this scorching, abrasive wind. That was as far ahead as I could think. I couldn’t see past my own little world. Maybe if I’d been thinking faster I’d have noticed more than just me and my twelve inch patch of sand. Perhaps I’d have linked the sudden scorching wind with the fiery trail that split the darkening sky in half. Maybe I’d have ran as far away as my four spindly legs could take me. Maybe I could have watched as twelve miles of desert floor suddenly and violently threw itself into the air. But no, I didn’t do any of those. I was too busy digging into my twelve inches of sand. The sound hit me first, like thunder made physical. The force of it drove me deeper into the sand. Everything compressed for a moment as a shiver ran through the ground, then the world turned upside down with me in the middle of it. As I tumbled through the air, the only thing I knew in that reptile brain of mine was that, if I survived, nothing would ever be the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the time I really had no concept of what was going on. I had thoughts and feelings, but no real language or foundation to give them meaning. I’d love to tell you about that transition; going from a mindless lizard to whatever it is that I am now, but everything before this point is a blur of instinct and learned response. This is as far back as my memory goes, and even so it’s like the desert floor: changing with the slightest gust of wind. Only the tallest dunes survived intact. This is just the first dune; there were many more made after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Somehow, against all odds, I survived that first dune. My scales were cracked and burned, there was a constant ringing in my ears, and it’d be weeks before I dislodged all the sand from the creases of my spines; but I was alive. Suddenly the world was much bigger than the twelve inch patch of sand. I’d been thrown out into the world to find something that I’d never had before: an expanse of possibilities. I could do anything and everything. So of course the first thing I did was find food. The ants I found and followed served as both a delicious snack as well as a trail to a nice little rock formation. With my stomach no longer clamoring for attention, exhaustion spilled over me. I settled down comfortably among the rocks and fell asleep.&lt;br /&gt;
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Waking up during the first few weeks of my change was always very odd. The transition between sleeping and waking never used to be slow. The sand would warm my body and blood to a certain temperature and then I’d be up and running, doing whatever it was that I used to do. After the changes started, the process grew longer, like clouds were being parted in my head, letting the sun in so my mind could warm up too. I am laying in sand. The sand is warm. The wind is blowing. The air tastes fine. The sun is bright. There are no immediate threats around my rocks. That last part caught my attention. Not that there wasn’t any immediate danger; there’s always danger when you’re my size, but that these rocks were mine. I sat on that thought for a while. I had found these rocks, and even with my sand blasted senses I could tell that nothing else had laid a claim on them. Well, except for the walking buffet of ants. They were more of a bonus to go with it. These were my rocks, those were my ants, and this was my home. My Home. I liked the sound of that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whatever had happened that night, so many days ago, had affected me in more ways than I could imagine. I almost always woke up feeling hungry. I figured out later that it must have been because of how drastically my body was changing. If it takes food to make my body move, then it must take a lot of food to make my body change. That was another new step in my morning routine. Figuring out what all had changed. My arms and legs were growing longer, my body was growing wider and flatter, and my head and neck seemed to be receding. The end result being that each day it was harder and harder for me to move. Not that I had any reason to. I had My Home and My Ants right here. Everything I needed to survive. By all rights I should have been happy, and for a while I was, but for some reason food and shelter weren’t enough anymore. There was something missing, and my longing for it only grew over time. The desert felt bigger and bigger every passing day, and even though I was growing along with it, I felt smaller and smaller.&lt;br /&gt;
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I eventually met another lizard. He must have followed the trail of ants back to it’s source by my home. I tried to interact with him, but that’s pretty hard when you don’t quite know how to communicate. He did the standard show of dominance. Push ups and body swelling to try and look bigger and meaner. I did much the same, only I was bigger and meaner. He scuttled back a ways and I didn’t go after him. It wasn’t worth the effort. He stayed a few dozen body lengths away from my home from then on. Every now and then I’d see him flash by to grab a few ants before retreating back to his burrow. Even though he was eating my ants, I was glad for the company while it lasted. Which was until a coyote caught up to him. I watched from the safety of my rocks as the coyote devoured him. There was nothing to be done. His time was up. The coyote was bigger, faster, and stronger. That’s how things work.&lt;br /&gt;
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Life went on that same way for several more days, and I was more or less used to it by now. The dunes in my life had leveled off, so when I ran straight into what may be the biggest dune in my life, I was completely unprepared. My sleep ended abruptly. Something was wrong. I couldn’t move, I couldn’t see, and I could hardly breath. I thought that my home had caved in, the rocks and dirt crushing down on me. Each breath was pulled from my lungs as soon as I tried to inhale. Each gasp for air growing shallower than the last as my lungs ceased to function. My eyes refused to blink. I tried and tried to clear the darkness or dirt or film from my vision, but it wasn’t working. I strained and strained until  something finally shifted. Relief flooded me, until the smell of blood hit my nose. The capillaries around my eyes had ruptured for their last time, releasing my blood to run down what was left of my face. It was too much. I was ready to just give up. To stop trying. Stop breathing. Anything to end this agony. So I did. I stopped struggling. Everything shut down. I was splayed out somewhere around my little cave of a home with no connection to outward reality. For all I knew, I ceased to exist.&lt;br /&gt;
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A glimmer in the dark. Something was approaching: A blur in the darkness, blinking in and out of focus. Shimmering in the dark. I don’t know how I’d been separated from reality, but just being able to see something made my heart jump. At least as much as a heart can jump when you’re paralyzed. So I waited for whatever it was to come closer. It was all I could do anyways, but that was enough for me. The blur did come closer along a winding path. I could make out the shape of a body now, but to what sort of creature, I had no idea. It seemed to have four legs, like the coyotes that prowl around at night, but the white blur traveled along only two of it’s legs. The other two whipped back and forth through the air with every step. And every now and then its steps would bring it closer to me. &lt;br /&gt;
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The blur bent over me, and for once I could see it clearly. I still didn’t know what it was, other than it was exceedingly weird looking. I didn’t get as long a look as I would’ve liked, because my body suddenly sprang back to life and threw me directly into it. Feeling had just began to return to my body when I blacked out again.&lt;br /&gt;
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The sand cascaded down the mountain. In my mind, I mean. Like the wind had blown a bit too hard and now everything was crashing down. Then the noise hit me, as if the same wind was now screeching through the gaps in my brain. Information followed along behind the wind and began plugging up the holes. Filling the gaps and crevices. Creating connections and bridges between thoughts and ideas. The heat of a new sun waking up my body. Everything started to come together. I could feel again. Something was scratching along my body. Not quite painful, but more than uncomfortable. I could hear the scratching as well, along with a loud whistle. My eyes opened next, only they weren’t mine. I could see out of them, but I couldn’t control them. It didn’t matter to me though, I was just so happy to be able to see again. Through those eyes I saw myself for the first time. Or rather, saw the part of me that hadn’t yet been covered in dark crimson blood. My body was fused with some other creature’s. I could see the spines and spikes that used to go around my sides. They were almost entirely obscured by the congealing blood as they punctured outwards from torn pink flesh. Inside of that ring of spines the blood had been wiped away to reveal my hardened scales, but it was quickly pooling over again. I didn’t know what sort of creature I’d been embedded into, but knew I was watching through it’s eyes as it tried to tear me apart.&lt;br /&gt;
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Something clicked, and a stream of data hit my brain. Language and labels at long last formed within my mind. Human. Male. Angry. Pain. Rage. Parasite. Violation. Whoever it was that I had latched onto wasn’t happy about it. I wasn’t too thrilled myself, but it had to be better than slowly suffocating to death. I didn’t have a chance to think about it further, because his eyes suddenly darted over to a screaming tea kettle. In quick succession he grabbed a large bowl, threw in a large kitchen knife, and then poured in the boiling water. I saw all of this through his eyes, and without really being aware of it, I knew exactly what everything was. I also knew exactly what he was planning to do, and for the first time since ‘awakening,’ I was afraid.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was a lot to process. I was attached to the sternum of a very large and very angry human male who was hellbent on cutting me off of him. If he separates my body from his, his liver will cease to function and we will both die. I don’t know where the thought came from, but there it was, and I had no reason to doubt it. I didn’t much want to die so soon after my new lease on life, and I assumed that humans would have a similar ideology. So I did the only thing I could, which was try and think ‘STOP!’ as loudly as possible. &lt;br /&gt;
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He stopped. Probably more out of surprise than anything else. I was so surprised myself that I forgot to keep talking. “Who’s there?” He shouted, brandishing the knife at the door, followed by each corner of the room before he returned it to point directly at me. “Now is a really shitty time, come back later!”&lt;br /&gt;
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Hearing his voice pulled me out of my reverie enough to attempt another reply in his head. “Human Man Thing, I would suggest you drop the knife unless you want to die.”&lt;br /&gt;
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He dropped the knife. Again, probably more out of surprise than fear or obedience. It stuck into the wood floor with a soft thud. He stood there for a moment, before collapsing onto his couch, breathing heavily. My body rose and fell with each of his breaths. I didn’t know what to do. It was all just so extremely different. So I just started rambling in his head. &lt;br /&gt;
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“Look, I do not quite understand it, but we are stuck together now and apparently I am your liver or something so it would probably be best for the both of us if you do not try and pry me off with sharp pointy objects otherwise I will be forced to do something drastic and more than likely unpleasant.” At least I was starting to get the hang of communication. I really hoped that he wouldn’t figure out that I couldn’t actually do anything at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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He stared at the ceiling for a moment longer, until I was just starting to see patterns in the texture, when he jumped to his feet. “No!” he shouted, as he smashed his fist into both of our bodies. It didn’t really hurt me, at least, probably not as much as he would have liked. Instead he achieved the grand total effect of knocking the wind out of himself, splashing his blood all over the floor, and cutting up the skin on his knuckles. &lt;br /&gt;
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“Aah, Fuck you!” He gasped out. I got a very good look at the carpeted floor as he doubled over wheezing.  “You fucking parasitic scum bag! Get the fuck off my chest! I swear if you gave me fucking space aids I will murder the shit out of you with your own spikey ass!” &lt;br /&gt;
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He kept up his blue streak for some time. Pacing back and forth as angry words poured out of his mouth. I was just along for the ride. He probably wouldn’t even hear anything I had to say, so I just waited until he wore himself out. When he finally ran out of steam and vitriol I spoke again. “Alright look, I do not know where you got the idea, but I am not a parasite. I am a-- I do not know fuck what I am, but If you leave me fucking alone, I will not hurt you. We have two options available. Either you succeed in tearing me from your body and we both die slow and painful deaths, or we learn to live fucking together. It is your choice.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I threw in some of the words he had used in an effort to be more convincing, but instead he just burst out laughing. I couldn’t figure out why. He’d been so angry a few moments before, and now he was almost falling over with laughter. “What is so funny?” I asked.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Holy shit, but are you fucking terrible at cursing!” How he managed to speak between laughing and inhaling I’ll never know, but at the least he wasn’t trying to murder me anymore. That was a big step up. “Oh damn,” he continued, “I’m gonna need some painkillers and something stiff to drink. This is a night to forget for sure.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I do not think it will be that easy, human. It is not like I will disappear during the night.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I have a name you know. Just call me Jon for now. It’s a lot easier for me to trust you if I don’t feel like I’m talking to a fucking robot, you know? So what should I call you?” &lt;br /&gt;
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That stopped me cold. I’d never thought about it before. I mean, I knew that everything had a name. Like we were sitting on a “couch” and that he had just tried to stab me with a “knife.” It just never occurred to me that I didn’t have a name for myself.&lt;br /&gt;
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“I-- I do not know.” The full wait of it struck me as I said it. “ I do not have a name.” &lt;br /&gt;
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	“Well then,” Jon exclaimed, “I guess we’re stuck together, so I’ll have to fix that. But first I’m going to take about fifty aspirin and then drink until I pass out.”&lt;br /&gt;
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	Jon followed through on his plan down to the letter. A handful of aspirin and quite a few glasses later and he was passed out on the couch. I didn’t sleep much. Actually, I’m pretty sure I didn’t sleep at all. As Jon fell into his stupor, my connection to the outside world grew dimmer and dimmer. Again I found myself unable to see, hear, smell, or even feel. I wasn’t scared this time though. For once it felt natural, like this was how things were supposed to be. It felt like the world had finally stopped spinning around so fast. I could finally take some time to think things over. So while Jon slept off his drunken stupor, that’s exactly what I did.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, when the morning came, I was the one with the headache. Or more like a whole body ache. Every part of me that I could feel pulsed with an uncomfortable pressure, like I was a cactus that’d been over watered in a storm. Jon was in the bathroom peeling off his clothes. They’d been plastered to his body with now dried blood and sweat, and they pulled away with a nasty scratching noise, like sand rubbing against a rock. He’d removed his shirt sometime last night, but now it was laying on the bathroom counter. There was a massive tear through the middle of it, almost bisecting it horizontally. He looked from the shirt to his reflection in the mirror.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Son of a bitch,” he said, more to the air than to me, “That was my favorite shirt too.” &lt;br /&gt;
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“Was that my doing?”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon looked down at me through the mirror. “Oh, you’re awake are you?” I couldn’t see his face, but his voice hardly masked the derision dripping through his teeth. “You burst through my shirt like a fucking face hugger in reverse. So yeah, you did that.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I knew what the correct response was. I was supposed to apologize, but I wasn’t feeling it. I wasn’t sorry for any of it. In fact, I’d be dead if I hadn’t done it. But, pulling from my new found social awareness, I apologized anyways. Jon grunted some sort of a response, but his attention was more or less held by the tweezers he was using to pick little bits of skin away from where my body joined his. &lt;br /&gt;
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“What did you drink last night?”&lt;br /&gt;
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“Really shitty whiskey.” &lt;br /&gt;
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“Is that why I feel so horrible?”&lt;br /&gt;
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Jon paused a moment to pull a particularly stubborn scrap of flesh away, wincing as it finally tore free. He threw the tweezers onto the counter and grabbed a bottle of Hydrogen Peroxide. “Yeah. It seems you’ve inherited my hangover. I guess that’s the silver lining on this fucking typhoon you dropped into my life.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I don’t really know how to reply to that. You are welcome I guess.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“This might sting a bit.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“What might--” I started, but by then he’d upended the bottle of peroxide and poured it directly onto his chest. It settled over me like the chill from a cold wind. Pins and needles trailed behind, walking across what used to be my back. “Oh. Well, that is unpleasant.” &lt;br /&gt;
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“Relax, it ain’t gonna kill you. I’m just cleaning out all the bacteria and shit you probably shoved directly into my chest.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I know that much, but wouldn’t it be better to see a medical expert?”&lt;br /&gt;
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“If I had time and money, yeah. I’d have skipped fucking around with you myself and gone straight there.” Jon paused briefly to screw the cap back on the peroxide bottle before tossing it onto the counter as well. “But as it is, I’m in a bit of a rush. I don’t have time for six months of testing and scientific method bullshit or whatever the hell they’d do when they find little alien things like you.” &lt;br /&gt;
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“Look, I’m not an alien. I have told you that before. I mean, I know that I’m a bit of an anomaly, but as far as I know Earth is my home. You have to understand, I have no idea what I’m doing, nor what’s going on outside of this room. This is probably just as new for me as it is for you.” &lt;br /&gt;
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“Alright, fair enough. At the least you don’t seem to be malicious, or malignant, or whatever the fuck ‘m’ word that is. Now can you shut up for a while? I’m gonna take a shower and it’ll be awkward enough as it is.”&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User:Concerned_Reader/Lotka_Volterra&amp;diff=13971</id>
		<title>User:Concerned Reader/Lotka Volterra</title>
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		<updated>2011-03-15T14:47:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: don&amp;#039;t really need a table of contents&lt;/p&gt;
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{{WIP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{universe|Pig and Whistle}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{author note|This was originally meant to be set in the Pig and Whistle story universe. I&#039;ve retooled it a bit so that it works well enough as a stand alone story so that I could use it for a Creative Writing class. Even so, I still want the characters to be available within the setting of Pig and Whistle, so just make some mental adjustments for the time being. This is only half of the story, as I still have yet to completely finish the other half, but expect the rest soon enough.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;This wind is too hot.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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That was the first thought to ever enter my head. I wasn’t even really aware of myself at the time. I just knew that I had to get out of this scorching, abrasive wind. That was as far ahead as I could think. I couldn’t see past my own little world. Maybe if I’d been thinking faster I’d have noticed more than just me and my twelve inch patch of sand. Perhaps I’d have linked the sudden scorching wind with the fiery trail that split the darkening sky in half. Maybe I’d have ran as far away as my four spindly legs could take me. Maybe I could have watched as twelve miles of desert floor suddenly and violently threw itself into the air. But no, I didn’t do any of those. I was too busy digging into my twelve inches of sand. The sound hit me first, like thunder made physical. The force of it drove me deeper into the sand. Everything compressed for a moment as a shiver ran through the ground, then the world turned upside down with me in the middle of it. As I tumbled through the air, the only thing I knew in that reptile brain of mine was that, if I survived, nothing would ever be the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the time I really had no concept of what was going on. There were thoughts and feelings, but no real language or foundation to give them meaning. I’d love to tell you about that transition; going from a mindless lizard to whatever it is that I am now, but everything before this point is a blur of instinct and learned response. This is as far back as my memory goes, and even so it’s like the desert floor. Changing with the slightest gust of wind. Only the tallest dunes survived intact. This is just the first dune; there were many more made after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Somehow, against all odds, I survived that first dune. My scales were cracked and burned, there was a constant ringing in my ears, and it’d be weeks before I dislodged all the sand from the creases of my spines; but I was alive. Suddenly the world was much bigger than my twelve inches. I’d been thrown out into the world to find something that I’d never had before: an expanse of possibilities. I could do anything and everything. So of course the first thing I did was find food. The ants I found and followed served as both a delicious snack as well as a trail to a nice little rock formation. With my stomach no longer clamoring for attention, exhaustion spilled over me. I settled down comfortably among the rocks and fell asleep.&lt;br /&gt;
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Waking up during the first few weeks of my change was always very odd. The transition between sleeping and waking never used to be slow. The sand would warm my body and blood to a certain temperature and then I’d be up and running. Doing whatever it was that I used to do. After the changes started, another step showed up. Like clouds were being parted in my head, letting the sun in so my mind could warm up too. Then it would usually take stock of what was going on around me. &#039;&#039;I am laying in sand. The sand is warm. The wind is blowing. The air tastes fine. The sun is bright. There are no immediate threats around my rocks.&#039;&#039; That last part caught my attention. Not that there wasn’t any immediate danger; there’s always danger when you’re my size, but that these rocks were mine. I sat on that thought for a while. I had found these rocks, and even with my sand blasted senses I could tell that nothing else had laid a claim on them. Well, except for the walking buffet of ants. They were more of a bonus to go with it. &#039;&#039;These were my rocks, those were my ants, and this was my home. My Home.&#039;&#039; I liked the sound of that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whatever had happened that night, so many days ago, had affected me in more ways than I could imagine. I almost always woke up feeling hungry. I figured out later that it must have been because of how drastically my body was changing. If it takes food to make my body move, then it must take a lot of food to make my body change. That was the next step of my new morning routine. Figuring out what all had changed. My arms and legs were growing longer, my body was growing wider and flatter, and my head and neck seemed to be receding. The end result being that each day it was harder and harder for me to move. Not that I had any reason to. I had My Home and My Ants right here. Everything I needed to survive. By all rights I should have been happy, and for a while I was, but for some reason food and shelter weren’t enough anymore. There was something missing, and my longing for it only grew over time. The desert felt bigger and bigger every passing day, and even though I was growing along with it, I felt smaller and smaller.&lt;br /&gt;
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I eventually met another lizard. He must have followed the trail of ants back to it’s source by my home. I tried to interact with him, but that’s pretty hard when you don’t quite know how to communicate. He did the standard show of dominance. Push ups and body swelling to try and look bigger and meaner. I did much the same, only I was bigger and meaner. He scuttled back a ways and I didn’t go after him. It wasn’t worth the effort. He stayed a few dozen body lengths away from my home from then on. Every now and then I’d see him flash by to grab a few ants before retreating back to his burrow. Even though he was eating my ants, I was glad for the company while it lasted. Which was until a coyote caught up to him. I watched from the safety of my rocks as the coyote devoured him. There was nothing to be done. His time was up. The coyote was bigger, faster, and stronger. That’s how things work.&lt;br /&gt;
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My sleep ended abruptly. Something was wrong. I couldn’t move, I couldn’t see, and I could hardly breath. I thought that my home had caved in, the rocks and dirt crushing down on me. Each breath was pulled from my lungs as soon as I tried to inhale. Each gasp for air growing shallower than the last as my lungs ceased to function. My eyes refused to blink. I tried and tried to clear the darkness or dirt or film from my vision, but it wasn’t working. I strained and strained until  something finally shifted. Relief flooded me, until the smell of my blood hit my nose. The capillaries around my eyes had ruptured. Probably for the last time. It was too much. I was ready to just give up. To stop trying. Stop breathing. Anything to end this agony. So I did. I stopped struggling. Everything shut down. I was splayed out somewhere around my little cave of a home with no connection to outward reality. For all I knew, I ceased to exist.&lt;br /&gt;
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A glimmer in the dark. Something was approaching. A blur in the darkness, blinking in and out of focus. Shimmering in the dark. I don’t know how I’d been separated from reality, but just being able to see something made my heart jump. At least as much as a heart can jump when you’re paralyzed. So I waited for whatever it was to come closer. It was all I could do anyways, but that was enough for me. The blur did come closer, but along a winding path. I could make out the shape of a body now. To what sort of creature I had no idea. It seemed to have four legs, like the howlers that prowl around at night, but the white blur traveled along only two of it’s legs. The other two whipped back and forth through the air with every step. And every now and then it’s steps would bring it closer to me. &lt;br /&gt;
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The blur bent over me, and for once I could see it clearly. I still didn’t know what it was, other than it was exceedingly weird looking. I didn’t get as long a look as I would have liked, because my body suddenly sprang back to life and threw itself directly into it. Feeling had just began to return to my body when I blacked out again.&lt;br /&gt;
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The sand cascaded down the mountain. In my mind I mean. Like the wind had blown a bit too hard and now everything was crashing down. Then the noise hit me. As if the same wind was now screeching through the gaps in my brain. Information followed along behind the wind and began plugging up the holes. Filling the gaps and crevices. Creating connections and bridges between thoughts and ideas. The heat of a new sun waking up my body. Everything started to come together. I could feel again. Something was scratching along my body. Not quite painful, but more than uncomfortable. I could hear the scratching as well, along with a loud whistle. My eyes opened next, only they weren’t mine. I could see out of them, but I couldn’t control them. It didn’t matter to me though, I was just so happy to be able to see again. I was looking at myself. Or rather, looking at the part of me that hadn’t yet been covered in dark crimson blood. My body was fused with some other creatures. I could see the spines and spikes that used to go around my sides. They were almost entirely obscured by the congealing blood as they punctured outwards from torn pink flesh. Inside of that ring of spines the blood had been wiped away to reveal my hardened scales, but was quickly pooling over again. I didn’t know what sort of creature I’d been embedded into, but knew I was watching through it’s eyes as it tried to tear me apart.&lt;br /&gt;
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Something clicked, and a stream of data hit my brain. Language and labels at long last formed within my mind. Human. Male. Angry. Pain. Rage. Parasite. Violation. Whoever it was that I had latched onto wasn’t happy about it. I wasn’t too thrilled myself, but it had to be better than slowly suffocating to death. I didn’t have a chance to think about it further, because his eyes suddenly darted over to a screaming tea kettle. In quick succession he grabbed a large bowl, threw in a large kitchen knife, and then poured in the boiling water. I saw all of this through his eyes, and without realizing it knew exactly what everything was. I also knew exactly what he was planning to do, and for the first time since ‘awakening,’ I was afraid.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was a lot to process. I was attached to the sternum of a very large and very angry human male who was hellbent on cutting me off of him. If he separates my body from his, his liver will cease to function and we will both die. I don’t know where the thought came from, but there it was, and I had no reason to doubt it. I didn’t much want to die so soon after my new lease on life, and I assumed that humans would have a similar ideology. So I did the only thing I could, which was try and think ‘STOP!’ as loudly as possible. &lt;br /&gt;
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He stopped. Probably more out of surprise than anything else. I was so surprised myself that I forgot to keep talking. “Who’s there!” He shouted, brandishing the knife at the door, followed by each corner of the room before he returned it to point directly at me. “Now is a really shitty time, come back later!”&lt;br /&gt;
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Hearing his voice pulled me out of my reverie enough to attempt another reply in his head. “Human Man Thing, I would suggest you drop the knife unless you want to die.”&lt;br /&gt;
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He dropped the knife. Again, probably more out of surprise than fear or obedience. It stuck into the wood floor with a soft thud. He stood there for a moment, before collapsing onto his couch, breathing heavily. My body rose and fell with each of his breaths. I didn’t know what to do. It was all just so extremely different. So I just started rambling in his head. &lt;br /&gt;
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“Look, I do not quite understand it, but we are stuck together now and apparently I am your liver or something so it would probably be best for the both of us if you do not try and pry me off with sharp pointy objects otherwise I will be forced to do something drastic and more than likely unpleasant.” At least I was starting to get the hang of communication. I really hoped that he wouldn’t figure out that I couldn’t actually do anything at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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He stared at the ceiling for a moment longer, until I was just starting to see patterns in the texture, when he jumped to his feet. “No!” he shouted, as he smashed his fist into both of our bodies. It didn’t really hurt me, at least, probably not as much as he would have liked. Instead he achieved the grand total effect of knocking the wind out of himself, splashing his blood all over the floor, and cutting up the skin on his knuckles. &lt;br /&gt;
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“Aah, Fuck you!” He gasped out. I got a very good look at the carpeted floor as he doubled over wheezing.  “You fucking parasitic scum bag! Get the fuck off my chest! I swear if you gave me fucking space aids I will murder the shit out of you with your own spikey ass!” &lt;br /&gt;
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He kept up his blue streak for some time. Pacing back and forth as angry words poured out of his mouth. I was just along for the ride. He probably wouldn’t even hear anything I had to say, so I just waited until he wore himself out. When he finally ran out of steam and vitriol I spoke again. “Alright look, I do not know where you got the idea, but I am not a parasite. I am a-- I do not know fuck what I am, but If you leave me fucking alone, I will not hurt you. We have two options available. Either you succeed in tearing me from your body and we both die slow and painful deaths, or we learn to live fucking together. It is your choice.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I threw in some of the words he had used in an effort to be more convincing, but instead he just burst out laughing. I couldn’t figure out why. He’d been so angry a few moments before, and now he was almost falling over with laughter. “What is so funny?” I asked.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Holy shit, but are you fucking terrible at cursing!” How he managed to speak between laughing and inhaling I’ll never know, but at the least he wasn’t trying to murder me anymore. That was a big step up. “Oooh damn,” he continued, “I’m gonna need some painkillers and something stiff to drink. This is a night to forget for sure.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I do not think it will be that easy, human. It is not like I will disappear during the night.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I have a name you know. Just call me Jon for now. It’s a lot easier for me to trust you if I don’t feel like I’m talking to a fucking robot,you know? So what should I call you?” &lt;br /&gt;
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That stopped me cold. I’d never thought about it before. I mean, I knew that everything had a name. Like we were sitting on a “couch” and that he had just tried to stab me with a “knife.” It just never occurred to me that I didn’t have a name for myself.&lt;br /&gt;
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“I-- I do not know.” The full wait of it struck me as I said it, “ I do not have a name.” &lt;br /&gt;
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“Well then,” Jon exclaimed, “I guess we’re stuck together, so I’ll have to fix that. But first I’m going to take about fifty aspirin and then drink until I pass out.”&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User:Concerned_Reader/Lotka_Volterra&amp;diff=13929</id>
		<title>User:Concerned Reader/Lotka Volterra</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User:Concerned_Reader/Lotka_Volterra&amp;diff=13929"/>
		<updated>2011-03-11T06:01:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: Massive New Content. Story is entirely re-written. This is just the first half.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{byline|author=Concerned Reader|user=Concerned Reader}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{WIP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{universe|Pig and Whistle}}&lt;br /&gt;
__TOC__&lt;br /&gt;
{{author note|This was originally meant to be set in the Pig and Whistle story universe. I&#039;ve retooled it a bit so that it works well enough as a stand alone story so that I could use it for a Creative Writing class. Even so, I still want the characters to be available within the setting of Pig and Whistle, so just make some mental adjustments for the time being. This is only half of the story, as I still have yet to completely finish the other half, but expect the rest soon enough.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;This wind is too hot.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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That was the first thought to ever enter my head. I wasn’t even really aware of myself at the time. I just knew that I had to get out of this scorching, abrasive wind. That was as far ahead as I could think. I couldn’t see past my own little world. Maybe if I’d been thinking faster I’d have noticed more than just me and my twelve inch patch of sand. Perhaps I’d have linked the sudden scorching wind with the fiery trail that split the darkening sky in half. Maybe I’d have ran as far away as my four spindly legs could take me. Maybe I could have watched as twelve miles of desert floor suddenly and violently threw itself into the air. But no, I didn’t do any of those. I was too busy digging into my twelve inches of sand. The sound hit me first, like thunder made physical. The force of it drove me deeper into the sand. Everything compressed for a moment as a shiver ran through the ground, then the world turned upside down with me in the middle of it. As I tumbled through the air, the only thing I knew in that reptile brain of mine was that, if I survived, nothing would ever be the same.&lt;br /&gt;
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At the time I really had no concept of what was going on. There were thoughts and feelings, but no real language or foundation to give them meaning. I’d love to tell you about that transition; going from a mindless lizard to whatever it is that I am now, but everything before this point is a blur of instinct and learned response. This is as far back as my memory goes, and even so it’s like the desert floor. Changing with the slightest gust of wind. Only the tallest dunes survived intact. This is just the first dune; there were many more made after it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Somehow, against all odds, I survived that first dune. My scales were cracked and burned, there was a constant ringing in my ears, and it’d be weeks before I dislodged all the sand from the creases of my spines; but I was alive. Suddenly the world was much bigger than my twelve inches. I’d been thrown out into the world to find something that I’d never had before: an expanse of possibilities. I could do anything and everything. So of course the first thing I did was find food. The ants I found and followed served as both a delicious snack as well as a trail to a nice little rock formation. With my stomach no longer clamoring for attention, exhaustion spilled over me. I settled down comfortably among the rocks and fell asleep.&lt;br /&gt;
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Waking up during the first few weeks of my change was always very odd. The transition between sleeping and waking never used to be slow. The sand would warm my body and blood to a certain temperature and then I’d be up and running. Doing whatever it was that I used to do. After the changes started, another step showed up. Like clouds were being parted in my head, letting the sun in so my mind could warm up too. Then it would usually take stock of what was going on around me. &#039;&#039;I am laying in sand. The sand is warm. The wind is blowing. The air tastes fine. The sun is bright. There are no immediate threats around my rocks.&#039;&#039; That last part caught my attention. Not that there wasn’t any immediate danger; there’s always danger when you’re my size, but that these rocks were mine. I sat on that thought for a while. I had found these rocks, and even with my sand blasted senses I could tell that nothing else had laid a claim on them. Well, except for the walking buffet of ants. They were more of a bonus to go with it. &#039;&#039;These were my rocks, those were my ants, and this was my home. My Home.&#039;&#039; I liked the sound of that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whatever had happened that night, so many days ago, had affected me in more ways than I could imagine. I almost always woke up feeling hungry. I figured out later that it must have been because of how drastically my body was changing. If it takes food to make my body move, then it must take a lot of food to make my body change. That was the next step of my new morning routine. Figuring out what all had changed. My arms and legs were growing longer, my body was growing wider and flatter, and my head and neck seemed to be receding. The end result being that each day it was harder and harder for me to move. Not that I had any reason to. I had My Home and My Ants right here. Everything I needed to survive. By all rights I should have been happy, and for a while I was, but for some reason food and shelter weren’t enough anymore. There was something missing, and my longing for it only grew over time. The desert felt bigger and bigger every passing day, and even though I was growing along with it, I felt smaller and smaller.&lt;br /&gt;
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I eventually met another lizard. He must have followed the trail of ants back to it’s source by my home. I tried to interact with him, but that’s pretty hard when you don’t quite know how to communicate. He did the standard show of dominance. Push ups and body swelling to try and look bigger and meaner. I did much the same, only I was bigger and meaner. He scuttled back a ways and I didn’t go after him. It wasn’t worth the effort. He stayed a few dozen body lengths away from my home from then on. Every now and then I’d see him flash by to grab a few ants before retreating back to his burrow. Even though he was eating my ants, I was glad for the company while it lasted. Which was until a coyote caught up to him. I watched from the safety of my rocks as the coyote devoured him. There was nothing to be done. His time was up. The coyote was bigger, faster, and stronger. That’s how things work.&lt;br /&gt;
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My sleep ended abruptly. Something was wrong. I couldn’t move, I couldn’t see, and I could hardly breath. I thought that my home had caved in, the rocks and dirt crushing down on me. Each breath was pulled from my lungs as soon as I tried to inhale. Each gasp for air growing shallower than the last as my lungs ceased to function. My eyes refused to blink. I tried and tried to clear the darkness or dirt or film from my vision, but it wasn’t working. I strained and strained until  something finally shifted. Relief flooded me, until the smell of my blood hit my nose. The capillaries around my eyes had ruptured. Probably for the last time. It was too much. I was ready to just give up. To stop trying. Stop breathing. Anything to end this agony. So I did. I stopped struggling. Everything shut down. I was splayed out somewhere around my little cave of a home with no connection to outward reality. For all I knew, I ceased to exist.&lt;br /&gt;
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A glimmer in the dark. Something was approaching. A blur in the darkness, blinking in and out of focus. Shimmering in the dark. I don’t know how I’d been separated from reality, but just being able to see something made my heart jump. At least as much as a heart can jump when you’re paralyzed. So I waited for whatever it was to come closer. It was all I could do anyways, but that was enough for me. The blur did come closer, but along a winding path. I could make out the shape of a body now. To what sort of creature I had no idea. It seemed to have four legs, like the howlers that prowl around at night, but the white blur traveled along only two of it’s legs. The other two whipped back and forth through the air with every step. And every now and then it’s steps would bring it closer to me. &lt;br /&gt;
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The blur bent over me, and for once I could see it clearly. I still didn’t know what it was, other than it was exceedingly weird looking. I didn’t get as long a look as I would have liked, because my body suddenly sprang back to life and threw itself directly into it. Feeling had just began to return to my body when I blacked out again.&lt;br /&gt;
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The sand cascaded down the mountain. In my mind I mean. Like the wind had blown a bit too hard and now everything was crashing down. Then the noise hit me. As if the same wind was now screeching through the gaps in my brain. Information followed along behind the wind and began plugging up the holes. Filling the gaps and crevices. Creating connections and bridges between thoughts and ideas. The heat of a new sun waking up my body. Everything started to come together. I could feel again. Something was scratching along my body. Not quite painful, but more than uncomfortable. I could hear the scratching as well, along with a loud whistle. My eyes opened next, only they weren’t mine. I could see out of them, but I couldn’t control them. It didn’t matter to me though, I was just so happy to be able to see again. I was looking at myself. Or rather, looking at the part of me that hadn’t yet been covered in dark crimson blood. My body was fused with some other creatures. I could see the spines and spikes that used to go around my sides. They were almost entirely obscured by the congealing blood as they punctured outwards from torn pink flesh. Inside of that ring of spines the blood had been wiped away to reveal my hardened scales, but was quickly pooling over again. I didn’t know what sort of creature I’d been embedded into, but knew I was watching through it’s eyes as it tried to tear me apart.&lt;br /&gt;
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Something clicked, and a stream of data hit my brain. Language and labels at long last formed within my mind. Human. Male. Angry. Pain. Rage. Parasite. Violation. Whoever it was that I had latched onto wasn’t happy about it. I wasn’t too thrilled myself, but it had to be better than slowly suffocating to death. I didn’t have a chance to think about it further, because his eyes suddenly darted over to a screaming tea kettle. In quick succession he grabbed a large bowl, threw in a large kitchen knife, and then poured in the boiling water. I saw all of this through his eyes, and without realizing it knew exactly what everything was. I also knew exactly what he was planning to do, and for the first time since ‘awakening,’ I was afraid.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was a lot to process. I was attached to the sternum of a very large and very angry human male who was hellbent on cutting me off of him. If he separates my body from his, his liver will cease to function and we will both die. I don’t know where the thought came from, but there it was, and I had no reason to doubt it. I didn’t much want to die so soon after my new lease on life, and I assumed that humans would have a similar ideology. So I did the only thing I could, which was try and think ‘STOP!’ as loudly as possible. &lt;br /&gt;
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He stopped. Probably more out of surprise than anything else. I was so surprised myself that I forgot to keep talking. “Who’s there!” He shouted, brandishing the knife at the door, followed by each corner of the room before he returned it to point directly at me. “Now is a really shitty time, come back later!”&lt;br /&gt;
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Hearing his voice pulled me out of my reverie enough to attempt another reply in his head. “Human Man Thing, I would suggest you drop the knife unless you want to die.”&lt;br /&gt;
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He dropped the knife. Again, probably more out of surprise than fear or obedience. It stuck into the wood floor with a soft thud. He stood there for a moment, before collapsing onto his couch, breathing heavily. My body rose and fell with each of his breaths. I didn’t know what to do. It was all just so extremely different. So I just started rambling in his head. &lt;br /&gt;
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“Look, I do not quite understand it, but we are stuck together now and apparently I am your liver or something so it would probably be best for the both of us if you do not try and pry me off with sharp pointy objects otherwise I will be forced to do something drastic and more than likely unpleasant.” At least I was starting to get the hang of communication. I really hoped that he wouldn’t figure out that I couldn’t actually do anything at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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He stared at the ceiling for a moment longer, until I was just starting to see patterns in the texture, when he jumped to his feet. “No!” he shouted, as he smashed his fist into both of our bodies. It didn’t really hurt me, at least, probably not as much as he would have liked. Instead he achieved the grand total effect of knocking the wind out of himself, splashing his blood all over the floor, and cutting up the skin on his knuckles. &lt;br /&gt;
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“Aah, Fuck you!” He gasped out. I got a very good look at the carpeted floor as he doubled over wheezing.  “You fucking parasitic scum bag! Get the fuck off my chest! I swear if you gave me fucking space aids I will murder the shit out of you with your own spikey ass!” &lt;br /&gt;
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He kept up his blue streak for some time. Pacing back and forth as angry words poured out of his mouth. I was just along for the ride. He probably wouldn’t even hear anything I had to say, so I just waited until he wore himself out. When he finally ran out of steam and vitriol I spoke again. “Alright look, I do not know where you got the idea, but I am not a parasite. I am a-- I do not know fuck what I am, but If you leave me fucking alone, I will not hurt you. We have two options available. Either you succeed in tearing me from your body and we both die slow and painful deaths, or we learn to live fucking together. It is your choice.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I threw in some of the words he had used in an effort to be more convincing, but instead he just burst out laughing. I couldn’t figure out why. He’d been so angry a few moments before, and now he was almost falling over with laughter. “What is so funny?” I asked.&lt;br /&gt;
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“Holy shit, but are you fucking terrible at cursing!” How he managed to speak between laughing and inhaling I’ll never know, but at the least he wasn’t trying to murder me anymore. That was a big step up. “Oooh damn,” he continued, “I’m gonna need some painkillers and something stiff to drink. This is a night to forget for sure.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I do not think it will be that easy, human. It is not like I will disappear during the night.”&lt;br /&gt;
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“I have a name you know. Just call me Jon for now. It’s a lot easier for me to trust you if I don’t feel like I’m talking to a fucking robot,you know? So what should I call you?” &lt;br /&gt;
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That stopped me cold. I’d never thought about it before. I mean, I knew that everything had a name. Like we were sitting on a “couch” and that he had just tried to stab me with a “knife.” It just never occurred to me that I didn’t have a name for myself.&lt;br /&gt;
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“I-- I do not know.” The full wait of it struck me as I said it, “ I do not have a name.” &lt;br /&gt;
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“Well then,” Jon exclaimed, “I guess we’re stuck together, so I’ll have to fix that. But first I’m going to take about fifty aspirin and then drink until I pass out.”&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Talk:Nothing_Otter&amp;diff=13423</id>
		<title>Talk:Nothing Otter</title>
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		<updated>2011-01-21T05:34:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: Hey Wolfy, You have to do it for every new line. Hey Traxer, at the end of your posts, just tack a --~~~ on the end and it&amp;#039;ll sign them for you.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;===Wolfy says...===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|Huh. I never quite like being the first one to review a story, but since I&#039;ve waited a while and nobody&#039;s stepped up, I just thought I&#039;d throw in my two cents&#039; worth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|First: This is a story I enjoyed a lot. Your characters were well fleshed-out and interesting to follow; many a time I couldn&#039;t help but smile to myself while reading about Luke&#039;s reactions. Each character was defined clearly with an individual personality, and for most part you maintained that through the story. Intercharacter relationships were well presented and heartfelt, which I liked a lot. Still, what I think is most memorable about this story is the sort of cheerful warmth in the ending:}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:{{Silver|&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Don&#039;t worry Wend, I&#039;ve done this before.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:{{Silver|&#039;&#039;Luke went to start the bath, smiling.&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|In those few simple lines I find that you&#039;ve expressed the full depth of their friendship excellently, and that&#039;s what I like most about this piece. :D}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|That said, forgive me, but I&#039;d like to point out some flaws in the story. You started off with a very clear image of Wend being a sort of tired-out college student, and Luke as the bright-eyed, bushy-tailed freshman: this I liked a lot; but over the course of the story, you seem to have detracted slightly from these personalities. Of course, perhaps I&#039;m just misreading it and the characters were just under a lot of stress (granted, they &#039;&#039;were&#039;&#039;); but some of Luke&#039;s ottery cheerfulness and kindness seems to have slid away over the span of the story. I thought it strange that Luke would dump the recently-changed Wend all by himself: you portrayed Luke as loyal and eager to please, willing to help out in any way he can; and suddenly he puts classes and grades before the wellbeing of a friend? I dunno. And later on in the story you have Luke talking about how terrible he feels about what happened to Wend, and the next moment he&#039;s overtly worrying more about his skin than Wend; of course, he would be worried sick about his skin, but maybe you should make his concern a little more subtle, because in my humble opinion a nice guy like Luke would also be worried about hurting his friend&#039;s feelings, too. Of course, you do a good job bringing back that good cheer in the last section (although Luke does seem a little less bubbly).}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|Of course, maybe you consciously intended to write them both in the way you did. In that case, ignore the above.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|The running of thoughts was excellently carried out in the first few sections: one could almost consciously tell who was thinking what simply by the way you strung lines together. Wend&#039;s thoughts were logical and realistic; Luke&#039;s were bubbly and meandering. The distinction was fun to read, and I loved it. However, over the course of the piece, you seem to have stopped making that distinction: near the end, Luke&#039;s thoughts seemed to have lost most of their wandering fun. I dunno. Plus, you also tended to present a story from different perspectives at the same time, which I thought was odd: especially in the second-last section, where everybody&#039;s debating how to solve the problem, you often write from Luke&#039;s perspective, then jump into Wend&#039;s, then back into Luke&#039;s. It&#039;s always good to consistently write from one character&#039;s point of view, unless you start a new section from another character&#039;s perspective. Switching back and forth is confusing.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|Apart from that, I can&#039;t see many other worrying problems. Some editing is in order: while your work was appealing in its presentation of ideas and flow of its storyline, I found that the tiny errors were a little distracting. Main problem was punctuation, with some commas mixed up with periods or some completely missing. Minor problem was sentence flow: on occasion the lines ran strangely, and rarely, I find repetitive sentences that muck up the flow. Very minor problem was word choice, which bordered on the edge of &#039;improper&#039; on several occasions (moonlight &#039;&#039;flittering&#039;&#039; in, being &#039;&#039;saturated&#039;&#039; by rain in a moment, a &#039;&#039;moderate&#039;&#039; splash). That said, these can be easily remedied by some close editing.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|Uhh. And that concludes the critique. I hope I didn&#039;t offend you; if I did, I didn&#039;t mean to. I liked this story, as well as your other two, and barring any violent response, I&#039;ll probably critique those two when I&#039;m free. :D}} --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Wolfy]] 09:20, 20 January 2011 (UTC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Traxer responds...===&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow. That&#039;s just the sort of critique I needed actually. I have been letting this story ferment for a few months trying to see what parts to edit and I really think you nailed some niggling worries at the back of my mind. Esp. the tone change in Luke. &lt;br /&gt;
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I will admit part of it was intentional, but I did not do a good job with the transition of it. When I changed to Luke&#039;s perspective, I sorta lost his quirky jive and never quite had it to come through. As the story progressed, I realized that the personalities of Wend and Luke would switch somewhat. Wend would have the flippant thoughts while Luke was becoming more logical. So by the time they are at the pond, it was meant to come off that way. Before that, not really, and I need to do some work on Luke&#039;s POV sections earlier in the story. You clarified some of my vague worries about Luke&#039;s progression. &lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t remember switching perspectives in the end...but I will look into that to make sure its properly anchored in Wend&#039;s POV (or make it clearer in any case). &lt;br /&gt;
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I need to dig into the editing process of grammar too. *gets out chainsaw*&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the grand review. Gives me some things to gnaw on. And I&#039;m glad warmth and fuzziness came through in the end. ^^&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template:Silver&amp;diff=13422</id>
		<title>Template:Silver</title>
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		<updated>2011-01-21T05:31:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: ech, can&amp;#039;t get the right color code.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#808080;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{{1|}}}&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Makes text Silver.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{Silver|words to make Silver}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|test}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template:Silver&amp;diff=13421</id>
		<title>Template:Silver</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template:Silver&amp;diff=13421"/>
		<updated>2011-01-21T05:30:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: Oops, had one too many # signs&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #7B7B7B;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{{1|}}}&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Makes text Silver.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{Silver|words to make Silver}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Silver|test}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template:Silver&amp;diff=13250</id>
		<title>Template:Silver</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template:Silver&amp;diff=13250"/>
		<updated>2011-01-09T18:24:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: still too light.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: ##7B7B7B;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{{1|}}}&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Makes text Silver.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{Silver|words to make Silver}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|test}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template:Silver&amp;diff=13249</id>
		<title>Template:Silver</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template:Silver&amp;diff=13249"/>
		<updated>2011-01-09T18:23:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: True Silver too hard to read, changed to a darker grey color.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #9A9A9A;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{{1|}}}&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Makes text Silver.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{Silver|words to make Silver}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|test}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template:Silver&amp;diff=13248</id>
		<title>Template:Silver</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template:Silver&amp;diff=13248"/>
		<updated>2011-01-09T18:22:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #C0C0C0;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{{1|}}}&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Makes text Silver.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{Silver|words to make Silver}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|test}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template:Silver&amp;diff=13247</id>
		<title>Template:Silver</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template:Silver&amp;diff=13247"/>
		<updated>2011-01-09T18:21:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: recreate Wolfy&amp;#039;s silver template&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #C0C0C0;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{{1|}}}&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Makes text Silver.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{Silver|words to make green}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Silver|test}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User:Concerned_Reader&amp;diff=13200</id>
		<title>User:Concerned Reader</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User:Concerned_Reader&amp;diff=13200"/>
		<updated>2011-01-07T06:11:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: ficly link.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{my stories}}&lt;br /&gt;
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__TOC__&lt;br /&gt;
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==About Me==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m just what the name says. A reader. I grew up on Science Fiction and saturday morning cartoons. In the 90&#039;s transformation was commonplace in toons. From Digimon to Beastwars to my personal favorite, Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century. I read Philip K. Dick Prolifically, and am just starting to get into Scott Westerfeld&#039;s stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now I know this is a &amp;quot;Furry&amp;quot; story archive, but personally I don&#039;t recognize myself as a furry. I have no fursona, fursuit, or fur-anything. Well, I have a cat and dog, but other than that, my life is furless. The only furry I have known was the quintessential gay rabbit who was in it for the yiff. He went to my high school, wore a bunny tail and ears every now and then, and generally told everyone in earshot that he was furry. I&#039;ve been around the outskirts of the fandom for some time now, and have seen just about every aspect of it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most anyone on the internet has seen some side of it, either from the bowels of 4chan and Encyclopaedia Dramatica, or just in passing on a forum. I somehow happened onto Transform.to, which lead me to the Transformation Story Archive. I read through some of it, and was intrigued by the wide range of genres that were brought together by the underlying theme of Transformation. The Tales from the Blind Pig setting grabbed my attention, and I soon was crawling the web, looking for more of it. I found Michael Bard&#039;s archive, and read almost everything on it. My favorites include most of Phil Geusz&#039;s stuff, along with Wells, J. Channing, Quentin &amp;quot;Cubist&amp;quot; Long, and Hallan Mirayas.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was back at the start of high school. Recently I went and reread a lot of TBP stuff, and it&#039;s still one of my favorites. It saddened me that it had died with so little noise. I did some more digging, searching around for authors and such. This lead me to Cubist&#039;s net zine, Anthro and from there I joined the TSA-list. Which is how I found out about both the Pig and Whistle universe, and shifti. A concerned reader, worrying that this new universe would collapse much like TPB did, I made an account and inquiry about the setting. After being promptly answered by ShadowWolf, I decided to get in on this new setting. Thus my first short story was started.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve recently begun writing on Ficly, a flash fiction archive. Here&#039;s my userpage: [http://ficly.com/authors/concerned_reader Concerned Reader].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==My definition of Science Fiction and Transformation Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Science Fiction, to me, isn&#039;t just fiction with science in it. It has to bring something new to the table. Present a new idea, and make you think about how things are in the present. The fine line between fantasy and Science Fiction doesn&#039;t matter. I once wrote an essay defending the opinion that Shakespeare&#039;s MacBeth was Science Fiction. The work just has to bring something new to the table.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I view Transformation Fiction as an extension of Science fiction. Much like Science Fiction isn&#039;t just fiction with science in it, Transformation Fiction isn&#039;t just fiction with transformation in it. It has to present a new idea, or draw parallels to the real world all the same. The Transformation can&#039;t just be a plot device, it has to further the development of the characters. The transformation in good Transformation Fiction stories isn&#039;t of the body, but the mind.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Finished Stories==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== work in progress ==&lt;br /&gt;
Progress on this stuff will be slow for a while, as I am starting college.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m currently attempting to write a short in the [[Pig and Whistle]] universe. It&#039;s not just my first short on shifti, it&#039;s my first short ever. I have no experience with writing narratives, and suffer from what I call &amp;quot;Block of Text Syndrome.&amp;quot; So be warned, it will be a bit hard to read until I patch it up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Rebuilding]]  --Part one of my first foray into writing, as well as the Pig and Whistle story Universe. Really just an introduction to Allan Willson as a character. Some world building for Texas as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Revenge]]  --Part two of Allan&#039;s first story. Will focus on the time after Allan has gone through college, and has joined the Texas Rangers. Should have more Action.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Resolutions -- Part three of my short series, But only if I don&#039;t finish it in part 2.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Concerned_Reader/Lotka_Volterra|Lotka Volterra]] -- A new story set within Pig and Whistle This is mostly in the conceptual stages now, but it&#039;ll introduce two new characters that I&#039;m pretty happy about. Just my attempt to stretch the limits, and see what crazy things I can get the universe guidelines to support.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To help keep track of the technology and politics in the PAW universe, I whipped up some timelines.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[PAW Timelines]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{author page}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User:Concerned_Reader&amp;diff=13199</id>
		<title>User:Concerned Reader</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User:Concerned_Reader&amp;diff=13199"/>
		<updated>2011-01-07T06:05:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: Cache copy&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{my stories}}&lt;br /&gt;
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__TOC__&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==About Me==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m just what the name says. A reader. I grew up on Science Fiction and saturday morning cartoons. In the 90&#039;s transformation was commonplace in toons. From Digimon to Beastwars to my personal favorite, Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century. I read Philip K. Dick Prolifically, and am just starting to get into Scott Westerfeld&#039;s stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now I know this is a &amp;quot;Furry&amp;quot; story archive, but personally I don&#039;t recognize myself as a furry. I have no fursona, fursuit, or fur-anything. Well, I have a cat and dog, but other than that, my life is furless. The only furry I have known was the quintessential gay rabbit who was in it for the yiff. He went to my high school, wore a bunny tail and ears every now and then, and generally told everyone in earshot that he was furry. I&#039;ve been around the outskirts of the fandom for some time now, and have seen just about every aspect of it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most anyone on the internet has seen some side of it, either from the bowels of 4chan and Encyclopaedia Dramatica, or just in passing on a forum. I somehow happened onto Transform.to, which lead me to the Transformation Story Archive. I read through some of it, and was intrigued by the wide range of genres that were brought together by the underlying theme of Transformation. The Tales from the Blind Pig setting grabbed my attention, and I soon was crawling the web, looking for more of it. I found Michael Bard&#039;s archive, and read almost everything on it. My favorites include most of Phil Geusz&#039;s stuff, along with Wells, J. Channing, Quentin &amp;quot;Cubist&amp;quot; Long, and Hallan Mirayas.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was back at the start of high school. Recently I went and reread a lot of TBP stuff, and it&#039;s still one of my favorites. It saddened me that it had died with so little noise. I did some more digging, searching around for authors and such. This lead me to Cubist&#039;s net zine, Anthro and from there I joined the TSA-list. Which is how I found out about both the Pig and Whistle universe, and shifti. A concerned reader, worrying that this new universe would collapse much like TPB did, I made an account and inquiry about the setting. After being promptly answered by ShadowWolf, I decided to get in on this new setting. Thus my first short story was started.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve recently begun writing on Ficly, a flash fiction archive. Here&#039;s my userpage: Concerned Reader.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==My definition of Science Fiction and Transformation Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Science Fiction, to me, isn&#039;t just fiction with science in it. It has to bring something new to the table. Present a new idea, and make you think about how things are in the present. The fine line between fantasy and Science Fiction doesn&#039;t matter. I once wrote an essay defending the opinion that Shakespeare&#039;s MacBeth was Science Fiction. The work just has to bring something new to the table.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I view Transformation Fiction as an extension of Science fiction. Much like Science Fiction isn&#039;t just fiction with science in it, Transformation Fiction isn&#039;t just fiction with transformation in it. It has to present a new idea, or draw parallels to the real world all the same. The Transformation can&#039;t just be a plot device, it has to further the development of the characters. The transformation in good Transformation Fiction stories isn&#039;t of the body, but the mind.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Finished Stories==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== work in progress ==&lt;br /&gt;
Progress on this stuff will be slow for a while, as I am starting college.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m currently attempting to write a short in the [[Pig and Whistle]] universe. It&#039;s not just my first short on shifti, it&#039;s my first short ever. I have no experience with writing narratives, and suffer from what I call &amp;quot;Block of Text Syndrome.&amp;quot; So be warned, it will be a bit hard to read until I patch it up.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Rebuilding]]  --Part one of my first foray into writing, as well as the Pig and Whistle story Universe. Really just an introduction to Allan Willson as a character. Some world building for Texas as well.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Revenge]]  --Part two of Allan&#039;s first story. Will focus on the time after Allan has gone through college, and has joined the Texas Rangers. Should have more Action.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Resolutions -- Part three of my short series, But only if I don&#039;t finish it in part 2.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Concerned_Reader/Lotka_Volterra|Lotka Volterra]] -- A new story set within Pig and Whistle This is mostly in the conceptual stages now, but it&#039;ll introduce two new characters that I&#039;m pretty happy about. Just my attempt to stretch the limits, and see what crazy things I can get the universe guidelines to support.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To help keep track of the technology and politics in the PAW universe, I whipped up some timelines.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[PAW Timelines]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{author page}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User:Concerned_Reader/Lotka_Volterra&amp;diff=13198</id>
		<title>User:Concerned Reader/Lotka Volterra</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User:Concerned_Reader/Lotka_Volterra&amp;diff=13198"/>
		<updated>2011-01-07T06:04:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: Lotka Lives&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{byline|author=Concerned Reader|user=Concerned Reader}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{WIP}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{universe|Pig and Whistle}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
The sun set low on the Texan horizon, throwing the last rays of the day across a lone horned lizard. He basked on his rocky perch, soaking in the end of the day. The sun waved to the moon with one last burst red, and then clocked in for the night. Lotka, for that would someday be the lizards name, skittered down his rock castle, and burrowed into the rapidly cooling desert sand. Within minutes his blood temperature had dropped, and he was sound asleep.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Asleep and in his own lizard dreamland, Lotka was completely unprepared for what awaited him in the morning. For during the night something fell upon him. Almost seeming to seek him out from the miles of desert sand. The infection, for that was what it was, invaded his little body. He coughed once, shifted in the still warm sand, and then slept on.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The morning came without warning, followed soon after by the heat of the day. The sand began regaining the heat lost during the night, and when it&#039;s temperature was just right, Lotka awoke. The first thought through his head, and in fact the first thought he&#039;d ever had, was “Fuck! This sand&#039;s hot!”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Of course he didn&#039;t think it in English, or any language for that matter. He had no concept of language yet, but in the strange stew that is consciousness, alphabet noodles appeared, and his internal monologue began. His first conscious decision was to remove himself from the sand, and so he did, post haste. The top of his rock castle called out to him, and as he scaled it to the top, he began to contemplate life, the universe, and everything. Or as much of everything his small brain and limited knowledge could encompass. Which is to say he thought about food.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Concerned_Reader&amp;diff=13112</id>
		<title>User talk:Concerned Reader</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Concerned_Reader&amp;diff=13112"/>
		<updated>2009-08-31T01:18:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* Congratulations! */ Thanks.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Welcome to Shifti! Always glad to see new contributors. This is a bit of a standard boilerplate introduction that will hopefully help get you started on some of the basics you might not have noticed. Firstly, there&#039;s a main index of help pages at [[Help:Contents]] - a link is provided in the default sidebar titled &amp;quot;Help.&amp;quot; It&#039;s a good idea to browse through the table of contents there so you&#039;ll know what information is available should you need it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you&#039;re here to post stories, there&#039;s a guide specifically for the basics of that over at [[Help:Posting stories]]. General editing assistance is at [[Help:Editing]], and information about how to use talk pages (like this one) is at [[Help:Talk pages]]. If any of the formatting seems esoteric at first, don&#039;t worry - wikis are collaborative and other editors and administrators will come around to help tidy up anything that&#039;s left in a messy state, if you want. The more complex details can be learned later as you go.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
You can set up a personal homepage for yourself at your root user page, which you can find by clicking on your user name at the top of the page. Use your user page however you see fit; most authors generally list their stories there, along with a bit of biographical information about themselves and perhaps some links to other websites. See [[Help:User pages]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you have any questions, you can either click the edit link for this page and write it here or you can follow the link in my signature to my own home page and leave it in the talk page over there. You can find a list of Shifti&#039;s administrators at [[Shifti:Administrators]]. Once you&#039;ve got your bearings, feel free to delete this welcome message from your user talk page. [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 04:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yep - you just got the welcoming boilerplate that everyone gets. Anyway, thanks for the interest in the [[PAW Collab]] - reallife has interfered, but it might get back on the road to being completed! As the official &amp;quot;Story #200&amp;quot; for Shifti, it really should be finished, no?&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, and let me extend a hand and give you a hearty &amp;quot;Welcome to Shifti&amp;quot; shake! -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 04:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks a lot for the links on my talk page. I just thought I&#039;d reply on YOUR talk page. The program is cool, but frankly speaking, Infocomm Studies is one of my worst subjects in school. I just somehow fail to grasp it (that&#039;s why I&#039;m so depressed about my chances of making Bungie). But still, thanks. Can&#039;t believe you remembered that I mentioned that. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]], 2:59, 1 July 2009 (+0800 GMT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Reading ==&lt;br /&gt;
*Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? - Philip K. Dick&lt;br /&gt;
:I actually have this one on my bookshelf. The movie is good, but it cannot match the intricate and twisted story that PK Dick weaves in the novel.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[wikipedia:Stranger in a strange land|Stranger in a Strange Land]] - Robert A. Heinlein&lt;br /&gt;
:Another one that is on my bookshelf right now. This book was one of the inspirations for the &#039;Hippie&#039; counter-culture movement. Do you Grok it ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[wikipedia:Starship Troopers|Starship Troopers]] - Robert A. Heinlein&lt;br /&gt;
:Again, this is on my bookshelf right now. A chilling look at a futuristic quasi-fascist world-state and warfare that shoots to the heart of how militaries were run during [[wikipedia:World war 2|WW2]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[wikipedia:Otherland|The Otherland Saga]] - Tad Williams&lt;br /&gt;
:A modern cyberpunk novel in which all the main characters are tied together through the events that occur in a secret, ultra-high-tech virtual reality constructed by a set of rich magnates. I can&#039;t say much more without destroying the hours of fun it is to read this one novel that is spread across four volumes - and was sold as four different books.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[wikipedia:Old Man&#039;s War|Old Man&#039;s War]] - John Scalzi&lt;br /&gt;
:The first of a trilogy about war in the far future, fought by earths elderly that have been given new bodies. Scalzi manages to give the combat a feel of urgency and immediacy that is rarely matched and the intricate machinations hinted at in this novel are explored and fleshed out in later novels in the series.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
... There are many, many more. But I can&#039;t just keep going on and on with this :)&lt;br /&gt;
-- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 23:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;ll have to look into some of these. The Otherland Saga sounds like [[Wikipedia:Serial Experiments Lain|&amp;quot;Serial Experiments Lain&amp;quot;]] mixed with [[Wikipedia:Ghost in the Shell|&amp;quot;Ghost in the Shell.&amp;quot;]] I, in my younger years, watched the [[Wikipedia:Roughnecks:_Starship_Troopers_Chronicles|Starship Troopers Cartoon]] that aired on UPN&#039;s morning run. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read the book yet, but have heard conflicting reviews.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::A book that I think most people should read, especially if they&#039;re interested in future tech and government, is Cory Doctorows [[Wikipedia:Little_Brother_(Cory_Doctorow_novel)|&amp;quot;Little Brother&amp;quot;]]. --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 21:04, 4 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Starship Troopers quality depends on whether you can separate yourself from your own political views long enough to see what points Heinlein is trying to make. &#039;Otherland&#039; is... &#039;Otherland&#039; - you have to read it to understand it, really, but your statement seems close. And... I follow Doctorow on Twitter and lots of other media but actually have not yet read a single one of his novels. I&#039;m currently making my way through an action series that is still being printed (&#039;The Lost Fleet&#039;) and don&#039;t have much money free other than that. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 02:32, 8 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Congratulations! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Yep - you heard me. Congratulations on going to college. Good luck, too. I dropped out after one semester and have been regretting that decision recently. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 22:44, 30 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ooh, grats on college CR! You must be nervous, I know I am and I&#039;m moving into residence tomorrow =( --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd Brunnel]] 00:07, 31 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|Thanks y&#039;all. I&#039;ve actually been moved in since wed. 8/26 and I&#039;ve been enjoying the freedom. I&#039;m nervous about classes, which start tomorrow. And the campus is huge. Thankfully, I live right across from food, so that wont be a problem.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User:Concerned_Reader&amp;diff=13108</id>
		<title>User:Concerned Reader</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User:Concerned_Reader&amp;diff=13108"/>
		<updated>2009-08-30T22:30:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* work in progress */  college interupts life...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{my stories}}&lt;br /&gt;
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__TOC__&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==About Me==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m just what the name says. A reader. I grew up on Science Fiction and saturday morning cartoons. In the 90&#039;s transformation was commonplace in toons. From &#039;&#039;Digimon&#039;&#039; to &#039;&#039;Beastwars&#039;&#039; to my personal favorite, [[Wikipedia:Sherlock_Holmes_in_the_22nd_Century|&#039;&#039;Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century&#039;&#039;]]. I read [[Wikipedia:Philip K. Dick|Philip K. Dick]] Prolifically, and am just starting to get into [[Wikipedia:Scott_Westerfeld|Scott Westerfeld&#039;s]] stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now I know this is a &amp;quot;Furry&amp;quot; story archive, but personally I don&#039;t recognize myself as a furry. I have no fursona, fursuit, or fur-anything. Well, I have a cat and dog, but other than that, my life is furless. The only furry I have known was the quintessential gay rabbit who was in it for the yiff. He went to my high school, wore a bunny tail and ears every now and then, and generally told everyone in earshot that he was furry. Needless to say, he left me with a bad taste in my mouth. Before you say anything, do two things. One, get your mind out of the gutter. Two, realize that I&#039;d been exposed to the furry subculture years ago. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Most anyone on the internet has seen some side of it, either from the bowels of 4chan and Encyclopaedia Dramatica, or just in passing on a forum. I somehow happened onto [http://Transform.to Transform.to], which lead me to the Transformation Story Archive. I read through some of it, and was intrigued by the wide range of genres that were brought together by the underlying theme of Transformation. The Tales from the Blind Pig setting grabbed my attention, and I soon was crawling the web, looking for more of it. I found [[User:Michael_Bard|Michael Bard&#039;s]] archive, and read almost everything on it. My favorites include most of [[User:rabbit|Phil Geusz&#039;s]] stuff, along with Wells, J. Channing, [[User:cubist|Quentin &amp;quot;Cubist&amp;quot; Long]], and Hallan Mirayas.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This was back at the start of high school. Recently I went and reread a lot of TBP stuff, and it&#039;s still one of my favorites. It saddened me that it had died with so little noise. I did some more digging, searching around for authors and such. This lead me to Cubist&#039;s net zine, [http://anthrozine.com/ Anthro] and from there I joined the TSA-list. Which is how I found out about both the [[Pig and Whistle]] universe, and shifti. A concerned reader, worrying that this new universe would collapse much like TPB did, I made an account and inquiry about the setting. After being promptly answered by [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]], I decided to get in on this new setting. Thus my first short story was started.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Science Fiction, to me, isn&#039;t just fiction with science in it. It has to bring something new to the table. Present a new idea, and make you think about how things are in the present. The fine line between fantasy and Science Fiction doesn&#039;t matter. I once wrote an essay defending the opinion that Shakespeare&#039;s MacBeth was Science Fiction. The work just has to bring something new to the table.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I view Transformation Fiction as an extension of Science fiction. Much like Science Fiction isn&#039;t just fiction with science in it, Transformation Fiction isn&#039;t just fiction with transformation in it. It has to present a new idea, or draw parallels to the real world all the same. The Transformation can&#039;t just be a plot device, it has to further the development of the characters. The transformation in good Transformation Fiction stories isn&#039;t of the body, but the mind.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ll see if I can find my Macbeth is science fiction essay and post it here. It includes a much more in-depth look at what makes science fiction.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Edit: I found it: [[Slipping Realities]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Recomended reading==&lt;br /&gt;
:*Evolutions Darling - Scott Westerfeld&lt;br /&gt;
::A story about a space ship AI that grows to Turing completeness. This classifies it as human, with human rights. The captain, not wanting to lose his ship ai, tries to erase it, leading to its escape and evolution over time. &#039;&#039;A word of caution. Most of Westerfelds earlier, non Young Adult, work has very vivid and violent sexual imagry&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*[[Wikipedia:Midnighters_1:_The_Secret_Hour|The]] [[Wikipedia:Midnighters_2:_Touching_Darkness|Midnighters]] [[Wikipedia:Midnighters_3:_Blue_Noon|Trilogy]] - Scott Westerfeld&lt;br /&gt;
::The story of a girl who stumbles into the world of Midnight in Bixby, Oklahoma. Trapped for the thirteenth hour every night in a frozen time where Darkness comes alive, and thirteen is a powerfull number. The series, Westerfelds first foray into Young Adult fiction, is well built. A strongly developed mythos and world that is inhabited by well developed characters. If all you care about is transformation, the second book in the series will interest you, but I recomend reading the whole thing.&lt;br /&gt;
:*[[Wikipedia:So_Yesterday_(novel)|So Yesterday]] - Scott Westerfeld&lt;br /&gt;
::Any book that can incorperate the siezer inducing episode of Pokemon, and still make perfect sense has to be good.&lt;br /&gt;
:*[[Wikipedia:Peeps_(novel)|Peeps]] and [[Wikipedia:The_Last_Days_(novel)|The Last Days]] - Scott Westerfeld&lt;br /&gt;
::A fresh and scientific aproach to the common vampire story. Parasites and STD&#039;s oh my.&lt;br /&gt;
:*[[Wikipedia:Uglies|The]] [[Wikipedia:Pretties|Ugglies]] [[Wikipedia:Specials_(novel)|Series]] - Scott Westerfeld&lt;br /&gt;
::His newest work to come out. &amp;quot;Set in a future post-scarcity dystopian world in which everyone is turned &amp;quot;Pretty&amp;quot; by extreme cosmetic surgery upon reaching age 16. It tells the story of teenager Tally Youngblood who rebels against society&#039;s enforced conformity, after her new found friends Shay and David show her the downsides to becoming a &amp;quot;pretty&amp;quot;.&amp;quot; From the Wiki. The series as a whole is very good. Definitely an eye opener.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m tired of summarizing, and Dicks work is very hard to sum up, so I&#039;ll treat you to the wiki pages.&lt;br /&gt;
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:*[[Wikipedia:A_Scanner_Darkly|A Scanner Darkly]] - Philip K. Dick&lt;br /&gt;
:*[[Wikipedia:Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep%3F|Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?]] - Philip K. Dick&lt;br /&gt;
::This was made into a movie by the name of BladeRunner. Perhaps you&#039;ve heard of it?&lt;br /&gt;
:*[The Collected Stories of Philip K. Dick] - Philip K. Dick&lt;br /&gt;
::In these collections, some of the short stories to look for are:&lt;br /&gt;
:::*[[Wikipedia:The_Short_Happy_Life_of_the_Brown_Oxford_%28collection%29|The Short Happy Life of The Brown Oxford]]&lt;br /&gt;
::And a few shorts, probably more than I know, use transformation as a device for greater character development:&lt;br /&gt;
:::*[[Wikipedia:Oh,_to_be_a_Blobel!|Oh, To Be a Blobel!]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::*[[Wikipedia:The_Golden_Man|The Golden Man]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::*[[Wikipedia:Planet_for_Transients|Planet for Transients]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::*[[Wikipedia:Strange_Eden|Strange Eden]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I highly recommend picking up one of his short story collections. Several of his shorts are public domain, and can be read on google books.&lt;br /&gt;
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== work in progress ==&lt;br /&gt;
Progress on this stuff will be slow for a while, as I am starting college.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m currently attempting to write a short in the [[Pig and Whistle]] universe. It&#039;s not just my first short on shifti, it&#039;s my first short ever. I have no experience with writing narratives, and suffer from what I call &amp;quot;Block of Text Syndrome.&amp;quot; So be warned, it will be a bit hard to read until I patch it up.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Rebuilding]]  --Part one of my short series. Really just an introduction to Allan Willson as a character. Some world building for Texas as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Revenge]]  --Part two of my short series. Will focus on the time after Allan has gone through college, and has joined the Texas Rangers. Should have more Action.&lt;br /&gt;
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Resolutions -- Part three of my short series, But only if I don&#039;t finish it in part 2.&lt;br /&gt;
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To help keep track of the technology and politics in the PAW universe, I whipped up some timelines.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[PAW Timelines]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{author page}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Tower_in_the_Torch&amp;diff=13014</id>
		<title>Talk:The Tower in the Torch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Tower_in_the_Torch&amp;diff=13014"/>
		<updated>2009-08-26T18:16:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* How to vocalize */ I&amp;#039;m no help at all.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Nice opening, no prizes for guessing what&#039;s about to happen though ;) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Fibio|Fibio]] 15:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Considering that I&#039;ve written two stories where he&#039;s a fox... not really, no =D -- [[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd Brunnel]] 16:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Good start, Lloyd. I like the character and this is a rather decent story. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 21:50, 25 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I agree with everything said above. This is looking to be a great introduction for Jonas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 23:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh yeah! Great intro for Jonas, I can&#039;t wait for the next part! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:00, 26 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How to vocalize ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The next part of this story has Jonas trying to talk, but I&#039;m not sure how to write it out. Foxes don&#039;t make the same types of sounds as other canines/candids so I can&#039;t just do things like &amp;quot;rawr&amp;quot; and whatnot. I&#039;ve been looking over http://www.foxforest.org/upclose/voicescarry.shtml since this page has recordings of fox voices but I&#039;m still stumped. Any suggestions? --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd Brunnel]] 17:39, 26 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;ve never known how to write out animal noises, other than describing what they may sound like. Onomatopoeia are hard like that...}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 18:16, 26 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Xanadu&amp;diff=13004</id>
		<title>Category talk:Xanadu</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Category_talk:Xanadu&amp;diff=13004"/>
		<updated>2009-08-26T03:20:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Hmm, any idea why my three new stories I&#039;ve personally written haven&#039;t appeared in the category section? -- Alex Warlorn August 25 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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:You need to create a category: Xanadu tag. The universe template simply displays the puzzle piece picture in the upper corner. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd Brunnel]] 23:27, 25 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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THEY DO! -- Alex Warlorn 25 August 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|No need to shout.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Tower_in_the_Torch&amp;diff=13000</id>
		<title>Talk:The Tower in the Torch</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Talk:The_Tower_in_the_Torch&amp;diff=13000"/>
		<updated>2009-08-25T23:15:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: yeah.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Nice opening, no prizes for guessing what&#039;s about to happen though ;) &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Fibio|Fibio]] 15:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Considering that I&#039;ve written two stories where he&#039;s a fox... not really, no =D -- [[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd Brunnel]] 16:25, 25 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Good start, Lloyd. I like the character and this is a rather decent story. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 21:50, 25 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I agree with everything said above. This is looking to be a great introduction for Jonas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 23:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Lloyd_Brunnel&amp;diff=12977</id>
		<title>User talk:Lloyd Brunnel</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Lloyd_Brunnel&amp;diff=12977"/>
		<updated>2009-08-22T14:44:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* Writing Non-Short Stories */  What he said.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Happy birthday ==&lt;br /&gt;
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…from an old fogey who is, oh my god, double your age… —[[User:Robotech Master|Robotech Master]] 20:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:…and from an old fogey who is close to double your age… -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 21:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks! --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]]&lt;br /&gt;
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...And a late one from me, who is just about your age.--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Case Brief ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #006400;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The Google on the Internets has spoken. Here are some case brief how to&#039;s that I could find: &lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.cjed.com/brief.htm http://www.cjed.com/brief.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.howtodothings.com/careers/a2850-how-to-write-a-brief-for-law-school.html http://www.howtodothings.com/careers/a2850-how-to-write-a-brief-for-law-school.html]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://lawschool.about.com/od/casebriefs/ht/howtocasebriefs.htm http://lawschool.about.com/od/casebriefs/ht/howtocasebriefs.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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It seemed to be an interesting idea, I&#039;d hate to see it die before even being born. &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you very much. I&#039;ll get started right away. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Writing Non-Short Stories==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey there, Lloyd, Wolfy here. With regards to your message on TSA-talk about writing short stories...I think I&#039;ll try to provide some advice. Instead of thinking of a specific scene, like those in short stories, try working out the befores and the afters. Describe more. Have more conversation. Add a few useful scenes here and there to display the personalities of your characters. Like what [[User:Rabbit|Rabbit]] said, just let the story move with its flow. That always happens to me, and I end up with one huge story. The great thing about writing a long story is that it gives you time to slowly but surely develop each character, flesh out the storyline, and give the story the emotional depth that most short stories cannot get.&lt;br /&gt;
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The sucky thing is that because they&#039;re long, it&#039;s going to take a long time. If you have a lot of ideas, you can try working them through one by one. If it&#039;s a long story it&#039;ll take a long time to write, so be patient. Also like what Rabbit said, don&#039;t stop, because if you stop for a day, and then another, and then another...well, you end up not writing anything, and you lose interest. But if you lose interest in the one you&#039;re halfway through, don&#039;t force yourself to finish it. For me, I just start another one. The interest will return at some point.&lt;br /&gt;
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Like mentioned earlier, long stories give the writer an opportunity to fully and completely display the personality of his characters. Plan out cool scenes for the story. Write down the storyline somewhere so you don&#039;t forget, but don&#039;t follow your sketch completely. I spent weeks thinking about the storyline of [[User:WolfyDrake95/Price in Blood|Price in Blood]], and it slowly evolved into the storyline that I&#039;m writing now. Be ready to change the storyline. It&#039;s not cast in iron; after all, you are the writer. Forcing yourself to write something you don&#039;t like only screws up the story more.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you&#039;re not sure about writing a full story by yourself, get a friend to collab with you. That way, mutual encouragement will make sure you don&#039;t lose interest and give up halfway like I did to [[User:WolfyDrake95/Last Man Standing|Last Man Standing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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But in the end, the most important thing is to have fun. Don&#039;t push yourself. &#039;&#039;Relax&#039;&#039;, and make sure you &#039;&#039;enjoy&#039;&#039; writing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:19, 22 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|This is some of the best advice I&#039;ve seen in a while, and it is entirely true of [[Rebuilding]]. I worked out a very rough outline, then just forced myself to start writing it. From there, the words just fell onto the page. Every night I&#039;d spout out more content, and suddenly I had a fairly long story. So long that I had to break it into 2-3 parts. I&#039;ve kinda fallen off of writing it at the moment, as I head out to college, but I should start back up again soon enough, after my Collab with wolfy is under wraps.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:44, 22 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Price_in_Blood&amp;diff=12923</id>
		<title>User talk:WolfyDrake95/Price in Blood</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Price_in_Blood&amp;diff=12923"/>
		<updated>2009-08-18T14:00:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* I&amp;#039;m back guys! */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;Kay. Thanks a lot! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Here is a clock for Texas,}} [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=24 timeanddate.com]. --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:And [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=236 here] is mine! So that we can sync up to a time where we can meet online for the dialog. Maybe next weekend, around eleven pm (Singapore time). Meanwhile I&#039;ll work on a list of what I need the conversation to cover. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I just started reading it, and it&#039;s looking pretty good so far. Though you might want to start using pronouns at some point...}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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*You mention that the phone is an iPhone, and I&#039;m not sure if Apple would have survived the collapse, much the same way that Microsoft didn&#039;t. We might want to come up with a new mobile device that everyone uses, Otherwise it&#039;s hard to tell that the story takes place in the future. Blind Pig had this present future problem pretty bad.&lt;br /&gt;
*You don&#039;t seem to have any paragraphs. Everything is on a new line, and it makes it a bit difficult to read on a wide-screen monitor.&lt;br /&gt;
*The steak house should have a proper name, Such as &amp;quot;The County Line,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Rudy&#039;s,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The Salt Lick.&amp;quot; Which are all, coincidentally, real BBQ joints in Austin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Your Texas accents aren&#039;t too bad. At the very least, they don&#039;t portray Texans as idiots.&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;Doubt this killer’ll dare to show his face ‘round these parts when the Rangers are here.&amp;quot; might be changed to &amp;quot;..parts with the Rangers in town.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*You drop a lot of Halo cameos in your stories. You might want to tone it down a bit, but that&#039;s more of a personal choice. &lt;br /&gt;
**In this case, the 99D-S2AM sniper rifle is very loud, and very evident as to where the bullet has come from due to the tracer in every round. You might look up some real world sniper rifles that are more anti-personnel and quiet.&lt;br /&gt;
*on the Encryption code: This isn&#039;t necessary, but for an added level of realism, you could research [[Wikipedia:Public Key|Public Key]] cryptography, and change it from Delta to a public key that they would use.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the robber: There are a lot of drunk, homeless, and/or bad people in east Austin, so you might set the Hotel there.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the praise! As for your comments...&lt;br /&gt;
:*About the iPhone, it&#039;s mainly because I can&#039;t think of anything else. If one of the creators of PaW would step up and offer a nifty new brand, I wouldn&#039;t mind changing.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Paragraphing: I noticed that too, so maybe I&#039;ll switch to double-spacing between paragraphs. I use short paragraphs because it emphasizes suspense (I think).&lt;br /&gt;
:*Naming the steak house: Got it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Texas accents: I worried that it would be offensive as I hate steorotypes. My bad.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Halo cameos: Right. Maybe I&#039;ll change it to a AWC (Arctic Warfare Covert). And, if you didn&#039;t notice, they&#039;re a lot more Halo references, like the Seventh Pillar Hotel is a ref. to the Seventh Column Bungie fangroup (Column is something like Pillar), and how the numbers of all the times add up to [http://www.halo.wikia.com/Seven seven]. And I intend to dump in more Assassin&#039;s Creed references, because I love that game. In case you didn&#039;t read Taylor&#039;s character page on PaW Character Timelines, Taylor bought a [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/Hidden_Blade hidden blade] and repaired it for use. I know too many game references are bad but god I love those games!&lt;br /&gt;
:*Encryption: That&#039;s pretty minor, but maybe I&#039;ll follow your suggestion. I used &amp;quot;Omega&amp;quot; just to make it sound cool, as well as being a reference to my still unfinished [[User:WolfyDrake95/Last Man Standing|Last Man Standing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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:And thus, I reply. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 04:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::An iphone, as is my understanding, does not require the presence of an Apple network in order to be used as a phone, so it is fully possible that it were still in use/production. If you want an alternate brand though, I believe the PAW Collab mentions something about Linux being the new microsoft so you may be able to come up with something there. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 11:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The iPhone does require an AT&amp;amp;T plan, as well as access to the app store. Apple also has a history of locking down their devices, so that they cannot be used to their fullest unless they are illegaly jailbroken. Now if someone more into the open source/Linux community had taken over Apple, the new iPhone could be a linux based device, as well as more open to modification. Such as an encrypted communications application.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 13:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As it stands this story is set so close to the end of the collapse that there will have been little in the way of technological innovation in regards to &amp;quot;consumer electronics&amp;quot;. I can see the jailbreaking applications for the iPhone having become common - hell, I could see someone having broken into Apple&#039;s campus and stolen all of their source as having happened. If the source was stolen, then making it available to the public could have happened as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I say that I can see this kind of thing happening and similar because I will not dictate things like that as having occurred. At this point the setting is still growing and details like that will likely be allowed as &amp;quot;canon&amp;quot;. As the setting grows more details will get filled in it will become harder for people to add major new facets to the setting. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually, I was thinking of using the iPhone because of its large application database, as well as its functionability (I read in NewsWeek that US snipers use it to calculate bullet drop). The one Taylor has is an upgraded version that the HRM developed for their field operatives. The HRM wasn&#039;t affected much by the Collapse, because it&#039;s quite a large movement and has a lot of powerful people within to support it. The cell featured in the story is only the Texas cell; many other cells are seeded within the New Confederacy. I can imagine someone in Apple being a member of the HRM and supplying them with the tech as well as the programs and applications specially designed for the Movement. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|As a hardware platform, the iPhone is very good. I can see that it could have grown into a much more robust device without Apple limiting it. Really, it&#039;s just kind of weird to see it called an iPhone in a future setting. I don&#039;t know if it should be called something else, but you might need to differentiate it from the iPhone of today.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I&#039;ll think about a new name. iPhone 2.0? uPhone? So many possibilities...&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d just like to ask if anyone would like to express their opinions on the second chapter of the story. And if you were wondering, the two guards are &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; dead. I can&#039;t have Taylor killing so many people. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 13:36, 14 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What can I say? Your action scene works and paints a wonderful picture. The ideas are presented in a clear manner and are written up excellently. And I am enjoying the story and am anxious to see how it works out. When it&#039;s done I&#039;ll try to give it the kind of critique you have asked for in the past. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 20:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yay, this story isn&#039;t ending up a wreck! Thanks, ShadowWolf! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 23:16, 14 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== On self deprication.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;m noticing a trend with us young writers. We seem to think everything we write is, for lack of a better term, complete sh*t. I echo your author&#039;s note almost exactly on [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. To quote:&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if this is a good or bad thing. It may mean we are more open to criticism, but it also means that we may be more prone to giving up on a story before giving it a chance.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think I know why. It&#039;s because when we (at least just me) read good stories (like Michael Bard&#039;s w00t I&#039;m a fan!) we feel that we can&#039;t get up to that standard. When we read other stories in the universe we feel that we can&#039;t maintain that level of awesomeness. And so, we&#039;re terrified that we&#039;ll screw up the story universe. As for whether it&#039;s a good thing or bad...I think good because small bits of praise make me so happy that I get motivated a lot, but bad because if I don&#039;t get any praise or comments I get very demoralized. Queer. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Drake, I thank you for your complements (ears burning and all).  But, your comment here frightens me more than anything.  I&#039;ve been afraid for a long time that us &amp;quot;old guard&amp;quot; are scaring off new comers.  We&#039;re not as inexperienced as you guys because we&#039;ve been at it longer.  The first story I finished that I still have is dated 1983.  So, I&#039;ve been writing for AT LEAST 26 years.  So yes, I have gained some skill...  :)  All of us started out like you new people -- please PLEASE don&#039;t be scared off.  It just takes time.  And, in a bit of morale boosting, let me compare writing learning to painting.  It took me 30 years go gain the painting skill I have.  There was no internet, no support network.  Now I can help new miniature painters reach 90% of my skill in less than a year.  Same thing applies for writing -- just ask and everybody I know of will be glad to help.  In a short time you too can be up at our level, and then together we can encourage each other to improve more and more.  Finally, don&#039;t worry about screwing up a universe.  The WORST that can happen is that somebody declares your story &amp;quot;non-canon&amp;quot; (hell, I got that done to me in Winds of Change).  Big deal.  Just write something else then.  [[User:Michael Bard|Michael Bard]] 05:40, 12 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Um...&#039;&#039;wow&#039;&#039;. *grins like little kid* I&#039;m your biggest fan, write something quick! :)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay, I&#039;ve calmed down now. Well, thanks for your advice! About getting scared off...Actually, a couple of months ago I was thinking of asking your opinion of a story, but then I read the [[Talk:Unequal Share|talk page]] of [[Unequal Share]] and I got pretty freaked out so I didn&#039;t dare to ask. Point taken, especially about screwing up other peoples&#039; story universe. Unfortunately, I take my stories &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; seriously, and I can never write short ones for some reason (they end up a little long), so I can&#039;t exactly just write something else. No offense, though. I still get your point.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I talked to you, I&#039;m so happy! (I get happy easily)&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 10:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::EEEP!  I can&#039;t remember writing that, and I can&#039;t believe I did.  It is definitely atypical.  Not sure what set me off there.  Normally I&#039;m not like that. Really.  At least I made you happy!  :)  [[User:Michael Bard|Michael Bard]] 5:35, 13 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|True enough. On a side note, I still haven&#039;t read it yet because I&#039;m RPing on one of District 9&#039;s Facebook pages. For the uninformed: [[Wikipedia:District_9|District 9]]. The Facebook page is}} [http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=57580949635#/MNUSpreadsLies here].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The universe the movie is set in is very interesting, and the fact that the RP is entirely user driven, with no professional posters, even more so. I think I may attempt a short in the universe, but that will probably not show up on shifti.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You Facebook? I never really understood the lure of that thing...I&#039;m not much for social networking. I&#039;ll probably try to work out my account soon enough. Strange thing, this Facebook. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It helps to connect to friends that aren&#039;t near you, and set up group things, and, as I&#039;m now finding out, it&#039;s pretty good for rping as well. This is a [http://www.explosm.net/comics/1137/ facebook]. I don&#039;t really want to link to my facebook from shifti, mainly because I don&#039;t really want my ident to be publicly known yet.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, I understand. I&#039;m so free with my identity because I feel very trapped, and I only find understanding online in people like you. But if you want to add me (on MSN, not Facebook, I don&#039;t use the latter), you&#039;re welcome to do so (drake_halounity[at]hotmail[dot]com)...I&#039;m lonely &#039;cos nobody I know in real life is actually interested in this sorta thing as well. Just don&#039;t send me viruses...&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I masked your email to prevent spamming, and added you to my contacts list. I&#039;ll email/message you at a later time. You might also hop onto the #Transformations irc network. It&#039;s full of like minded individuals.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah...I see both you and Lloyd did it before me. I was about to delete the address by today. Thanks anyway, especially for adding. As for IRC...I dunno how to use it. From what I&#039;ve gathered, I need to have some program. I&#039;ll see if I can download it and get online, but for now I&#039;m busy working on this story. That and my exams. Once again, thanks you two! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 06:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::IRC is just an online group chat.  You join a server, and you join a channel, and you talk to others.  Lots of programs are available.  The one I use is mIRC [http://www.mirc.com/].  The two main servers from Shifti&#039;s POV are irc.lapinia.org and irc.anthrochat.net.  Lapinia is where Shadowwolf lurks -- usually in the #transformations channel.  The other &amp;quot;big&amp;quot; writing channel on lapinia is #MKGuild for writers in the Metamor Keep universe.  On anthrochat, got to #TheZoo.  Rabbit/Phil Geusz lurks there.  I&#039;m on all the channels, Jon Sleeper is on #transformations and #TheZoo, etc.  Between those two channels you can find almost anybody from around here.  [[User:Michael Bard|Michael Bard]] 05:45, 12 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wow...I never really used the IRC before; all those Internet safety people always condemn it when they do speeches in school. Maybe I&#039;ll check it out one of these days, but first I&#039;ll do some investigation first. Still, thanks for the info. :)&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 10:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I&#039;ve always tried to use an IRC but I haven&#039;t a clue how to log on to one and I&#039;ve never found any actual directions XD. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:55, 14 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Yeah, I never understood it either. IMs are a lot easier to use. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 23:16, 14 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::IRC was the first cross-system way to chat. Prior to the invention of IRC there were single-system talk systems (like the venerable &#039;talk&#039; and &#039;write&#039; commands on Posix systems) and e-mail. It is also a &amp;quot;many to many&amp;quot; system&amp;amp;mdash;meaning that everything except private-message type chats are seen by everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::For good information on using IRC see [http://irchelp.org irchelp.org]&amp;amp;mdash;their [http://irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html tutorial] is extremely helpful. You can find a lot of names you&#039;ll recognize from Shifti on irc.lapinia.org in the channel #transformations and other names you&#039;ll recognize (in general) on irc.anthrochat.net in the channel #TheZoo.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Please note that any warnings you have heard about IRC are true for the larger networks (DALnet, EFnet, UnderNet, etc...) and on smaller networks you should be similarly careful, though the danger is quite a bit less. It is like comparing small towns that don&#039;t have a major crime in decades to a city where major crimes happen multiple times a day. The solution is for everyone to be equally careful&amp;amp;mdash;stay behind the nickname and don&#039;t give out personal details until you are certain you can trust a person. (And even then... don&#039;t give out that kind of trust too easily) -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 23:29, 14 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I&#039;m back guys! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Did you miss me?&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m ready for collaboration and such, just let me know when you want to get together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:39, 18 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Great to hear that you&#039;re back. I won&#039;t be up for a collab for a while, because I&#039;ve fallen into a bit of block regarding the section before the conversation we&#039;ll be doing. Not to mention the exam period I&#039;m fending off right now. Still, I&#039;ll contact you when I&#039;m ready. Thanks for the offer, anyway. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:27, 18 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Message me about the blocked up section, I&#039;ll see if I can offer any ideas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:00, 18 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Talk:Within_and_Without&amp;diff=12919</id>
		<title>Talk:Within and Without</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: wasn&amp;#039;t logged in&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Green|This sounds oddly familiar. Not the plot, or even characters, but the way it&#039;s written. It was like reading something I&#039;d written and then forgotten about.&lt;br /&gt;
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I like the character, as well as the happenings. It may be a &amp;quot;Day in the life&amp;quot; story, but it&#039;s a well told one, and it defines the location just that much more. It&#039;s the characters that make the setting, so any definite character we have is always great.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:24, 18 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Price_in_Blood&amp;diff=12915</id>
		<title>User talk:WolfyDrake95/Price in Blood</title>
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		<updated>2009-08-18T01:39:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* I&amp;#039;m back guys! */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;Kay. Thanks a lot! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Here is a clock for Texas,}} [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=24 timeanddate.com]. --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:And [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=236 here] is mine! So that we can sync up to a time where we can meet online for the dialog. Maybe next weekend, around eleven pm (Singapore time). Meanwhile I&#039;ll work on a list of what I need the conversation to cover. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I just started reading it, and it&#039;s looking pretty good so far. Though you might want to start using pronouns at some point...}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I have now finished the story in it&#039;s current posted form, and must say it is a very good start. A couple of notes:&lt;br /&gt;
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*You mention that the phone is an iPhone, and I&#039;m not sure if Apple would have survived the collapse, much the same way that Microsoft didn&#039;t. We might want to come up with a new mobile device that everyone uses, Otherwise it&#039;s hard to tell that the story takes place in the future. Blind Pig had this present future problem pretty bad.&lt;br /&gt;
*You don&#039;t seem to have any paragraphs. Everything is on a new line, and it makes it a bit difficult to read on a wide-screen monitor.&lt;br /&gt;
*The steak house should have a proper name, Such as &amp;quot;The County Line,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Rudy&#039;s,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The Salt Lick.&amp;quot; Which are all, coincidentally, real BBQ joints in Austin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Your Texas accents aren&#039;t too bad. At the very least, they don&#039;t portray Texans as idiots.&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;Doubt this killer’ll dare to show his face ‘round these parts when the Rangers are here.&amp;quot; might be changed to &amp;quot;..parts with the Rangers in town.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*You drop a lot of Halo cameos in your stories. You might want to tone it down a bit, but that&#039;s more of a personal choice. &lt;br /&gt;
**In this case, the 99D-S2AM sniper rifle is very loud, and very evident as to where the bullet has come from due to the tracer in every round. You might look up some real world sniper rifles that are more anti-personnel and quiet.&lt;br /&gt;
*on the Encryption code: This isn&#039;t necessary, but for an added level of realism, you could research [[Wikipedia:Public Key|Public Key]] cryptography, and change it from Delta to a public key that they would use.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the robber: There are a lot of drunk, homeless, and/or bad people in east Austin, so you might set the Hotel there.&lt;br /&gt;
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And that&#039;s all I could find right now. Keep up the good work.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the praise! As for your comments...&lt;br /&gt;
:*About the iPhone, it&#039;s mainly because I can&#039;t think of anything else. If one of the creators of PaW would step up and offer a nifty new brand, I wouldn&#039;t mind changing.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Paragraphing: I noticed that too, so maybe I&#039;ll switch to double-spacing between paragraphs. I use short paragraphs because it emphasizes suspense (I think).&lt;br /&gt;
:*Naming the steak house: Got it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Texas accents: I worried that it would be offensive as I hate steorotypes. My bad.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Halo cameos: Right. Maybe I&#039;ll change it to a AWC (Arctic Warfare Covert). And, if you didn&#039;t notice, they&#039;re a lot more Halo references, like the Seventh Pillar Hotel is a ref. to the Seventh Column Bungie fangroup (Column is something like Pillar), and how the numbers of all the times add up to [http://www.halo.wikia.com/Seven seven]. And I intend to dump in more Assassin&#039;s Creed references, because I love that game. In case you didn&#039;t read Taylor&#039;s character page on PaW Character Timelines, Taylor bought a [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/Hidden_Blade hidden blade] and repaired it for use. I know too many game references are bad but god I love those games!&lt;br /&gt;
:*Encryption: That&#039;s pretty minor, but maybe I&#039;ll follow your suggestion. I used &amp;quot;Omega&amp;quot; just to make it sound cool, as well as being a reference to my still unfinished [[User:WolfyDrake95/Last Man Standing|Last Man Standing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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:And thus, I reply. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 04:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::An iphone, as is my understanding, does not require the presence of an Apple network in order to be used as a phone, so it is fully possible that it were still in use/production. If you want an alternate brand though, I believe the PAW Collab mentions something about Linux being the new microsoft so you may be able to come up with something there. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 11:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The iPhone does require an AT&amp;amp;T plan, as well as access to the app store. Apple also has a history of locking down their devices, so that they cannot be used to their fullest unless they are illegaly jailbroken. Now if someone more into the open source/Linux community had taken over Apple, the new iPhone could be a linux based device, as well as more open to modification. Such as an encrypted communications application.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 13:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As it stands this story is set so close to the end of the collapse that there will have been little in the way of technological innovation in regards to &amp;quot;consumer electronics&amp;quot;. I can see the jailbreaking applications for the iPhone having become common - hell, I could see someone having broken into Apple&#039;s campus and stolen all of their source as having happened. If the source was stolen, then making it available to the public could have happened as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I say that I can see this kind of thing happening and similar because I will not dictate things like that as having occurred. At this point the setting is still growing and details like that will likely be allowed as &amp;quot;canon&amp;quot;. As the setting grows more details will get filled in it will become harder for people to add major new facets to the setting. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually, I was thinking of using the iPhone because of its large application database, as well as its functionability (I read in NewsWeek that US snipers use it to calculate bullet drop). The one Taylor has is an upgraded version that the HRM developed for their field operatives. The HRM wasn&#039;t affected much by the Collapse, because it&#039;s quite a large movement and has a lot of powerful people within to support it. The cell featured in the story is only the Texas cell; many other cells are seeded within the New Confederacy. I can imagine someone in Apple being a member of the HRM and supplying them with the tech as well as the programs and applications specially designed for the Movement. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|As a hardware platform, the iPhone is very good. I can see that it could have grown into a much more robust device without Apple limiting it. Really, it&#039;s just kind of weird to see it called an iPhone in a future setting. I don&#039;t know if it should be called something else, but you might need to differentiate it from the iPhone of today.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I&#039;ll think about a new name. iPhone 2.0? uPhone? So many possibilities...&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d just like to ask if anyone would like to express their opinions on the second chapter of the story. And if you were wondering, the two guards are &#039;&#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039;&#039; dead. I can&#039;t have Taylor killing so many people. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 13:36, 14 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What can I say? Your action scene works and paints a wonderful picture. The ideas are presented in a clear manner and are written up excellently. And I am enjoying the story and am anxious to see how it works out. When it&#039;s done I&#039;ll try to give it the kind of critique you have asked for in the past. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 20:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yay, this story isn&#039;t ending up a wreck! Thanks, ShadowWolf! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 23:16, 14 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== On self deprication.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;m noticing a trend with us young writers. We seem to think everything we write is, for lack of a better term, complete sh*t. I echo your author&#039;s note almost exactly on [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. To quote:&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if this is a good or bad thing. It may mean we are more open to criticism, but it also means that we may be more prone to giving up on a story before giving it a chance.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think I know why. It&#039;s because when we (at least just me) read good stories (like Michael Bard&#039;s w00t I&#039;m a fan!) we feel that we can&#039;t get up to that standard. When we read other stories in the universe we feel that we can&#039;t maintain that level of awesomeness. And so, we&#039;re terrified that we&#039;ll screw up the story universe. As for whether it&#039;s a good thing or bad...I think good because small bits of praise make me so happy that I get motivated a lot, but bad because if I don&#039;t get any praise or comments I get very demoralized. Queer. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Drake, I thank you for your complements (ears burning and all).  But, your comment here frightens me more than anything.  I&#039;ve been afraid for a long time that us &amp;quot;old guard&amp;quot; are scaring off new comers.  We&#039;re not as inexperienced as you guys because we&#039;ve been at it longer.  The first story I finished that I still have is dated 1983.  So, I&#039;ve been writing for AT LEAST 26 years.  So yes, I have gained some skill...  :)  All of us started out like you new people -- please PLEASE don&#039;t be scared off.  It just takes time.  And, in a bit of morale boosting, let me compare writing learning to painting.  It took me 30 years go gain the painting skill I have.  There was no internet, no support network.  Now I can help new miniature painters reach 90% of my skill in less than a year.  Same thing applies for writing -- just ask and everybody I know of will be glad to help.  In a short time you too can be up at our level, and then together we can encourage each other to improve more and more.  Finally, don&#039;t worry about screwing up a universe.  The WORST that can happen is that somebody declares your story &amp;quot;non-canon&amp;quot; (hell, I got that done to me in Winds of Change).  Big deal.  Just write something else then.  [[User:Michael Bard|Michael Bard]] 05:40, 12 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Um...&#039;&#039;wow&#039;&#039;. *grins like little kid* I&#039;m your biggest fan, write something quick! :)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay, I&#039;ve calmed down now. Well, thanks for your advice! About getting scared off...Actually, a couple of months ago I was thinking of asking your opinion of a story, but then I read the [[Talk:Unequal Share|talk page]] of [[Unequal Share]] and I got pretty freaked out so I didn&#039;t dare to ask. Point taken, especially about screwing up other peoples&#039; story universe. Unfortunately, I take my stories &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; seriously, and I can never write short ones for some reason (they end up a little long), so I can&#039;t exactly just write something else. No offense, though. I still get your point.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I talked to you, I&#039;m so happy! (I get happy easily)&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 10:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::EEEP!  I can&#039;t remember writing that, and I can&#039;t believe I did.  It is definitely atypical.  Not sure what set me off there.  Normally I&#039;m not like that. Really.  At least I made you happy!  :)  [[User:Michael Bard|Michael Bard]] 5:35, 13 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|True enough. On a side note, I still haven&#039;t read it yet because I&#039;m RPing on one of District 9&#039;s Facebook pages. For the uninformed: [[Wikipedia:District_9|District 9]]. The Facebook page is}} [http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=57580949635#/MNUSpreadsLies here].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The universe the movie is set in is very interesting, and the fact that the RP is entirely user driven, with no professional posters, even more so. I think I may attempt a short in the universe, but that will probably not show up on shifti.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You Facebook? I never really understood the lure of that thing...I&#039;m not much for social networking. I&#039;ll probably try to work out my account soon enough. Strange thing, this Facebook. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It helps to connect to friends that aren&#039;t near you, and set up group things, and, as I&#039;m now finding out, it&#039;s pretty good for rping as well. This is a [http://www.explosm.net/comics/1137/ facebook]. I don&#039;t really want to link to my facebook from shifti, mainly because I don&#039;t really want my ident to be publicly known yet.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, I understand. I&#039;m so free with my identity because I feel very trapped, and I only find understanding online in people like you. But if you want to add me (on MSN, not Facebook, I don&#039;t use the latter), you&#039;re welcome to do so (drake_halounity[at]hotmail[dot]com)...I&#039;m lonely &#039;cos nobody I know in real life is actually interested in this sorta thing as well. Just don&#039;t send me viruses...&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I masked your email to prevent spamming, and added you to my contacts list. I&#039;ll email/message you at a later time. You might also hop onto the #Transformations irc network. It&#039;s full of like minded individuals.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah...I see both you and Lloyd did it before me. I was about to delete the address by today. Thanks anyway, especially for adding. As for IRC...I dunno how to use it. From what I&#039;ve gathered, I need to have some program. I&#039;ll see if I can download it and get online, but for now I&#039;m busy working on this story. That and my exams. Once again, thanks you two! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 06:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::IRC is just an online group chat.  You join a server, and you join a channel, and you talk to others.  Lots of programs are available.  The one I use is mIRC [http://www.mirc.com/].  The two main servers from Shifti&#039;s POV are irc.lapinia.org and irc.anthrochat.net.  Lapinia is where Shadowwolf lurks -- usually in the #transformations channel.  The other &amp;quot;big&amp;quot; writing channel on lapinia is #MKGuild for writers in the Metamor Keep universe.  On anthrochat, got to #TheZoo.  Rabbit/Phil Geusz lurks there.  I&#039;m on all the channels, Jon Sleeper is on #transformations and #TheZoo, etc.  Between those two channels you can find almost anybody from around here.  [[User:Michael Bard|Michael Bard]] 05:45, 12 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wow...I never really used the IRC before; all those Internet safety people always condemn it when they do speeches in school. Maybe I&#039;ll check it out one of these days, but first I&#039;ll do some investigation first. Still, thanks for the info. :)&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 10:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I&#039;ve always tried to use an IRC but I haven&#039;t a clue how to log on to one and I&#039;ve never found any actual directions XD. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:55, 14 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Yeah, I never understood it either. IMs are a lot easier to use. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 23:16, 14 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::IRC was the first cross-system way to chat. Prior to the invention of IRC there were single-system talk systems (like the venerable &#039;talk&#039; and &#039;write&#039; commands on Posix systems) and e-mail. It is also a &amp;quot;many to many&amp;quot; system&amp;amp;mdash;meaning that everything except private-message type chats are seen by everyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::For good information on using IRC see [http://irchelp.org irchelp.org]&amp;amp;mdash;their [http://irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html tutorial] is extremely helpful. You can find a lot of names you&#039;ll recognize from Shifti on irc.lapinia.org in the channel #transformations and other names you&#039;ll recognize (in general) on irc.anthrochat.net in the channel #TheZoo.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Please note that any warnings you have heard about IRC are true for the larger networks (DALnet, EFnet, UnderNet, etc...) and on smaller networks you should be similarly careful, though the danger is quite a bit less. It is like comparing small towns that don&#039;t have a major crime in decades to a city where major crimes happen multiple times a day. The solution is for everyone to be equally careful&amp;amp;mdash;stay behind the nickname and don&#039;t give out personal details until you are certain you can trust a person. (And even then... don&#039;t give out that kind of trust too easily) -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 23:29, 14 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I&#039;m back guys! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Did you miss me?&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m ready for collaboration and such, just let me know when you want to get together.&amp;quot;}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:39, 18 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* On self deprication. */  Bard made a fail. I patched it up.&lt;/p&gt;
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{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;Kay. Thanks a lot! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Here is a clock for Texas,}} [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=24 timeanddate.com]. --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:And [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=236 here] is mine! So that we can sync up to a time where we can meet online for the dialog. Maybe next weekend, around eleven pm (Singapore time). Meanwhile I&#039;ll work on a list of what I need the conversation to cover. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I just started reading it, and it&#039;s looking pretty good so far. Though you might want to start using pronouns at some point...}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I have now finished the story in it&#039;s current posted form, and must say it is a very good start. A couple of notes:&lt;br /&gt;
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*You mention that the phone is an iPhone, and I&#039;m not sure if Apple would have survived the collapse, much the same way that Microsoft didn&#039;t. We might want to come up with a new mobile device that everyone uses, Otherwise it&#039;s hard to tell that the story takes place in the future. Blind Pig had this present future problem pretty bad.&lt;br /&gt;
*You don&#039;t seem to have any paragraphs. Everything is on a new line, and it makes it a bit difficult to read on a wide-screen monitor.&lt;br /&gt;
*The steak house should have a proper name, Such as &amp;quot;The County Line,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Rudy&#039;s,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The Salt Lick.&amp;quot; Which are all, coincidentally, real BBQ joints in Austin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Your Texas accents aren&#039;t too bad. At the very least, they don&#039;t portray Texans as idiots.&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;Doubt this killer’ll dare to show his face ‘round these parts when the Rangers are here.&amp;quot; might be changed to &amp;quot;..parts with the Rangers in town.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*You drop a lot of Halo cameos in your stories. You might want to tone it down a bit, but that&#039;s more of a personal choice. &lt;br /&gt;
**In this case, the 99D-S2AM sniper rifle is very loud, and very evident as to where the bullet has come from due to the tracer in every round. You might look up some real world sniper rifles that are more anti-personnel and quiet.&lt;br /&gt;
*on the Encryption code: This isn&#039;t necessary, but for an added level of realism, you could research [[Wikipedia:Public Key|Public Key]] cryptography, and change it from Delta to a public key that they would use.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the robber: There are a lot of drunk, homeless, and/or bad people in east Austin, so you might set the Hotel there.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the praise! As for your comments...&lt;br /&gt;
:*About the iPhone, it&#039;s mainly because I can&#039;t think of anything else. If one of the creators of PaW would step up and offer a nifty new brand, I wouldn&#039;t mind changing.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Paragraphing: I noticed that too, so maybe I&#039;ll switch to double-spacing between paragraphs. I use short paragraphs because it emphasizes suspense (I think).&lt;br /&gt;
:*Naming the steak house: Got it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Texas accents: I worried that it would be offensive as I hate steorotypes. My bad.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Halo cameos: Right. Maybe I&#039;ll change it to a AWC (Arctic Warfare Covert). And, if you didn&#039;t notice, they&#039;re a lot more Halo references, like the Seventh Pillar Hotel is a ref. to the Seventh Column Bungie fangroup (Column is something like Pillar), and how the numbers of all the times add up to [http://www.halo.wikia.com/Seven seven]. And I intend to dump in more Assassin&#039;s Creed references, because I love that game. In case you didn&#039;t read Taylor&#039;s character page on PaW Character Timelines, Taylor bought a [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/Hidden_Blade hidden blade] and repaired it for use. I know too many game references are bad but god I love those games!&lt;br /&gt;
:*Encryption: That&#039;s pretty minor, but maybe I&#039;ll follow your suggestion. I used &amp;quot;Omega&amp;quot; just to make it sound cool, as well as being a reference to my still unfinished [[User:WolfyDrake95/Last Man Standing|Last Man Standing]].&lt;br /&gt;
:*The robber: Okay.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And thus, I reply. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 04:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::An iphone, as is my understanding, does not require the presence of an Apple network in order to be used as a phone, so it is fully possible that it were still in use/production. If you want an alternate brand though, I believe the PAW Collab mentions something about Linux being the new microsoft so you may be able to come up with something there. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 11:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The iPhone does require an AT&amp;amp;T plan, as well as access to the app store. Apple also has a history of locking down their devices, so that they cannot be used to their fullest unless they are illegaly jailbroken. Now if someone more into the open source/Linux community had taken over Apple, the new iPhone could be a linux based device, as well as more open to modification. Such as an encrypted communications application.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 13:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As it stands this story is set so close to the end of the collapse that there will have been little in the way of technological innovation in regards to &amp;quot;consumer electronics&amp;quot;. I can see the jailbreaking applications for the iPhone having become common - hell, I could see someone having broken into Apple&#039;s campus and stolen all of their source as having happened. If the source was stolen, then making it available to the public could have happened as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I say that I can see this kind of thing happening and similar because I will not dictate things like that as having occurred. At this point the setting is still growing and details like that will likely be allowed as &amp;quot;canon&amp;quot;. As the setting grows more details will get filled in it will become harder for people to add major new facets to the setting. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually, I was thinking of using the iPhone because of its large application database, as well as its functionability (I read in NewsWeek that US snipers use it to calculate bullet drop). The one Taylor has is an upgraded version that the HRM developed for their field operatives. The HRM wasn&#039;t affected much by the Collapse, because it&#039;s quite a large movement and has a lot of powerful people within to support it. The cell featured in the story is only the Texas cell; many other cells are seeded within the New Confederacy. I can imagine someone in Apple being a member of the HRM and supplying them with the tech as well as the programs and applications specially designed for the Movement. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|As a hardware platform, the iPhone is very good. I can see that it could have grown into a much more robust device without Apple limiting it. Really, it&#039;s just kind of weird to see it called an iPhone in a future setting. I don&#039;t know if it should be called something else, but you might need to differentiate it from the iPhone of today.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I&#039;ll think about a new name. iPhone 2.0? uPhone? So many possibilities...&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== On self deprication.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;m noticing a trend with us young writers. We seem to think everything we write is, for lack of a better term, complete sh*t. I echo your author&#039;s note almost exactly on [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. To quote:&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if this is a good or bad thing. It may mean we are more open to criticism, but it also means that we may be more prone to giving up on a story before giving it a chance.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think I know why. It&#039;s because when we (at least just me) read good stories (like Michael Bard&#039;s w00t I&#039;m a fan!) we feel that we can&#039;t get up to that standard. When we read other stories in the universe we feel that we can&#039;t maintain that level of awesomeness. And so, we&#039;re terrified that we&#039;ll screw up the story universe. As for whether it&#039;s a good thing or bad...I think good because small bits of praise make me so happy that I get motivated a lot, but bad because if I don&#039;t get any praise or comments I get very demoralized. Queer. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Drake, I thank you for your complements (ears burning and all).  But, your comment here frightens me more than anything.  I&#039;ve been afraid for a long time that us &amp;quot;old guard&amp;quot; are scaring off new comers.  We&#039;re not as inexperienced as you guys because we&#039;ve been at it longer.  The first story I finished that I still have is dated 1983.  So, I&#039;ve been writing for AT LEAST 26 years.  So yes, I have gained some skill...  :)  All of us started out like you new people -- please PLEASE don&#039;t be scared off.  It just takes time.  And, in a bit of morale boosting, let me compare writing learning to painting.  It took me 30 years go gain the painting skill I have.  There was no internet, no support network.  Now I can help new miniature painters reach 90% of my skill in less than a year.  Same thing applies for writing -- just ask and everybody I know of will be glad to help.  In a short time you too can be up at our level, and then together we can encourage each other to improve more and more.  Finally, don&#039;t worry about screwing up a universe.  The WORST that can happen is that somebody declares your story &amp;quot;non-canon&amp;quot; (hell, I got that done to me in Winds of Change).  Big deal.  Just write something else then.  [[User:Michael Bard|Michael Bard]] 05:40, 12 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Um...&#039;&#039;wow&#039;&#039;. *grins like little kid* I&#039;m your biggest fan, write something quick! :)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay, I&#039;ve calmed down now. Well, thanks for your advice! About getting scared off...Actually, a couple of months ago I was thinking of asking your opinion of a story, but then I read the [[Talk:Unequal Share|talk page]] of [[Unequal Share]] and I got pretty freaked out so I didn&#039;t dare to ask. Point taken, especially about screwing up other peoples&#039; story universe. Unfortunately, I take my stories &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; seriously, and I can never write short ones for some reason (they end up a little long), so I can&#039;t exactly just write something else. No offense, though. I still get your point.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I talked to you, I&#039;m so happy! (I get happy easily)&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 10:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::EEEP!  I can&#039;t remember writing that, and I can&#039;t believe I did.  It is definitely atypical.  Not sure what set me off there.  Normally I&#039;m not like that. Really.  At least I made you happy!  :)  [[User:Michael Bard|Michael Bard]] 5:35, 13 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|True enough. On a side note, I still haven&#039;t read it yet because I&#039;m RPing on one of District 9&#039;s Facebook pages. For the uninformed: [[Wikipedia:District_9|District 9]]. The Facebook page is}} [http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=57580949635#/MNUSpreadsLies here].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The universe the movie is set in is very interesting, and the fact that the RP is entirely user driven, with no professional posters, even more so. I think I may attempt a short in the universe, but that will probably not show up on shifti.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You Facebook? I never really understood the lure of that thing...I&#039;m not much for social networking. I&#039;ll probably try to work out my account soon enough. Strange thing, this Facebook. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It helps to connect to friends that aren&#039;t near you, and set up group things, and, as I&#039;m now finding out, it&#039;s pretty good for rping as well. This is a [http://www.explosm.net/comics/1137/ facebook]. I don&#039;t really want to link to my facebook from shifti, mainly because I don&#039;t really want my ident to be publicly known yet.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, I understand. I&#039;m so free with my identity because I feel very trapped, and I only find understanding online in people like you. But if you want to add me (on MSN, not Facebook, I don&#039;t use the latter), you&#039;re welcome to do so (drake_halounity[at]hotmail[dot]com)...I&#039;m lonely &#039;cos nobody I know in real life is actually interested in this sorta thing as well. Just don&#039;t send me viruses...&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I masked your email to prevent spamming, and added you to my contacts list. I&#039;ll email/message you at a later time. You might also hop onto the #Transformations irc network. It&#039;s full of like minded individuals.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah...I see both you and Lloyd did it before me. I was about to delete the address by today. Thanks anyway, especially for adding. As for IRC...I dunno how to use it. From what I&#039;ve gathered, I need to have some program. I&#039;ll see if I can download it and get online, but for now I&#039;m busy working on this story. That and my exams. Once again, thanks you two! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 06:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::IRC is just an online group chat.  You join a server, and you join a channel, and you talk to others.  Lots of programs are available.  The one I use is mIRC [http://www.mirc.com/].  The two main servers from Shifti&#039;s POV are irc.lapinia.org and irc.anthrochat.net.  Lapinia is where Shadowwolf lurks -- usually in the #transformations channel.  The other &amp;quot;big&amp;quot; writing channel on lapinia is #MKGuild for writers in the Metamor Keep universe.  On anthrochat, got to #TheZoo.  Rabbit/Phil Geusz lurks there.  I&#039;m on all the channels, Jon Sleeper is on #transformations and #TheZoo, etc.  Between those two channels you can find almost anybody from around here.  [[User:Michael Bard|Michael Bard]] 05:45, 12 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wow...I never really used the IRC before; all those Internet safety people always condemn it when they do speeches in school. Maybe I&#039;ll check it out one of these days, but first I&#039;ll do some investigation first. Still, thanks for the info. :)&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 10:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* On self deprication. */ yeah&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;Kay. Thanks a lot! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Here is a clock for Texas,}} [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=24 timeanddate.com]. --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:And [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=236 here] is mine! So that we can sync up to a time where we can meet online for the dialog. Maybe next weekend, around eleven pm (Singapore time). Meanwhile I&#039;ll work on a list of what I need the conversation to cover. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I just started reading it, and it&#039;s looking pretty good so far. Though you might want to start using pronouns at some point...}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I have now finished the story in it&#039;s current posted form, and must say it is a very good start. A couple of notes:&lt;br /&gt;
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*You mention that the phone is an iPhone, and I&#039;m not sure if Apple would have survived the collapse, much the same way that Microsoft didn&#039;t. We might want to come up with a new mobile device that everyone uses, Otherwise it&#039;s hard to tell that the story takes place in the future. Blind Pig had this present future problem pretty bad.&lt;br /&gt;
*You don&#039;t seem to have any paragraphs. Everything is on a new line, and it makes it a bit difficult to read on a wide-screen monitor.&lt;br /&gt;
*The steak house should have a proper name, Such as &amp;quot;The County Line,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Rudy&#039;s,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The Salt Lick.&amp;quot; Which are all, coincidentally, real BBQ joints in Austin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Your Texas accents aren&#039;t too bad. At the very least, they don&#039;t portray Texans as idiots.&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;Doubt this killer’ll dare to show his face ‘round these parts when the Rangers are here.&amp;quot; might be changed to &amp;quot;..parts with the Rangers in town.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*You drop a lot of Halo cameos in your stories. You might want to tone it down a bit, but that&#039;s more of a personal choice. &lt;br /&gt;
**In this case, the 99D-S2AM sniper rifle is very loud, and very evident as to where the bullet has come from due to the tracer in every round. You might look up some real world sniper rifles that are more anti-personnel and quiet.&lt;br /&gt;
*on the Encryption code: This isn&#039;t necessary, but for an added level of realism, you could research [[Wikipedia:Public Key|Public Key]] cryptography, and change it from Delta to a public key that they would use.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the robber: There are a lot of drunk, homeless, and/or bad people in east Austin, so you might set the Hotel there.&lt;br /&gt;
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And that&#039;s all I could find right now. Keep up the good work.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the praise! As for your comments...&lt;br /&gt;
:*About the iPhone, it&#039;s mainly because I can&#039;t think of anything else. If one of the creators of PaW would step up and offer a nifty new brand, I wouldn&#039;t mind changing.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Paragraphing: I noticed that too, so maybe I&#039;ll switch to double-spacing between paragraphs. I use short paragraphs because it emphasizes suspense (I think).&lt;br /&gt;
:*Naming the steak house: Got it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Texas accents: I worried that it would be offensive as I hate steorotypes. My bad.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Halo cameos: Right. Maybe I&#039;ll change it to a AWC (Arctic Warfare Covert). And, if you didn&#039;t notice, they&#039;re a lot more Halo references, like the Seventh Pillar Hotel is a ref. to the Seventh Column Bungie fangroup (Column is something like Pillar), and how the numbers of all the times add up to [http://www.halo.wikia.com/Seven seven]. And I intend to dump in more Assassin&#039;s Creed references, because I love that game. In case you didn&#039;t read Taylor&#039;s character page on PaW Character Timelines, Taylor bought a [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/Hidden_Blade hidden blade] and repaired it for use. I know too many game references are bad but god I love those games!&lt;br /&gt;
:*Encryption: That&#039;s pretty minor, but maybe I&#039;ll follow your suggestion. I used &amp;quot;Omega&amp;quot; just to make it sound cool, as well as being a reference to my still unfinished [[User:WolfyDrake95/Last Man Standing|Last Man Standing]].&lt;br /&gt;
:*The robber: Okay.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And thus, I reply. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 04:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::An iphone, as is my understanding, does not require the presence of an Apple network in order to be used as a phone, so it is fully possible that it were still in use/production. If you want an alternate brand though, I believe the PAW Collab mentions something about Linux being the new microsoft so you may be able to come up with something there. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 11:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The iPhone does require an AT&amp;amp;T plan, as well as access to the app store. Apple also has a history of locking down their devices, so that they cannot be used to their fullest unless they are illegaly jailbroken. Now if someone more into the open source/Linux community had taken over Apple, the new iPhone could be a linux based device, as well as more open to modification. Such as an encrypted communications application.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 13:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As it stands this story is set so close to the end of the collapse that there will have been little in the way of technological innovation in regards to &amp;quot;consumer electronics&amp;quot;. I can see the jailbreaking applications for the iPhone having become common - hell, I could see someone having broken into Apple&#039;s campus and stolen all of their source as having happened. If the source was stolen, then making it available to the public could have happened as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I say that I can see this kind of thing happening and similar because I will not dictate things like that as having occurred. At this point the setting is still growing and details like that will likely be allowed as &amp;quot;canon&amp;quot;. As the setting grows more details will get filled in it will become harder for people to add major new facets to the setting. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually, I was thinking of using the iPhone because of its large application database, as well as its functionability (I read in NewsWeek that US snipers use it to calculate bullet drop). The one Taylor has is an upgraded version that the HRM developed for their field operatives. The HRM wasn&#039;t affected much by the Collapse, because it&#039;s quite a large movement and has a lot of powerful people within to support it. The cell featured in the story is only the Texas cell; many other cells are seeded within the New Confederacy. I can imagine someone in Apple being a member of the HRM and supplying them with the tech as well as the programs and applications specially designed for the Movement. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|As a hardware platform, the iPhone is very good. I can see that it could have grown into a much more robust device without Apple limiting it. Really, it&#039;s just kind of weird to see it called an iPhone in a future setting. I don&#039;t know if it should be called something else, but you might need to differentiate it from the iPhone of today.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I&#039;ll think about a new name. iPhone 2.0? uPhone? So many possibilities...&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
== On self deprication.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;m noticing a trend with us young writers. We seem to think everything we write is, for lack of a better term, complete sh*t. I echo your author&#039;s note almost exactly on [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. To quote:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Anyways, I don&#039;t want to accidentally wreck your carefully crafted world with my bad fanfiction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if this is a good or bad thing. It may mean we are more open to criticism, but it also means that we may be more prone to giving up on a story before giving it a chance.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think I know why. It&#039;s because when we (at least just me) read good stories (like Michael Bard&#039;s w00t I&#039;m a fan!) we feel that we can&#039;t get up to that standard. When we read other stories in the universe we feel that we can&#039;t maintain that level of awesomeness. And so, we&#039;re terrified that we&#039;ll screw up the story universe. As for whether it&#039;s a good thing or bad...I think good because small bits of praise make me so happy that I get motivated a lot, but bad because if I don&#039;t get any praise or comments I get very demoralized. Queer. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|True enough. On a side note, I still haven&#039;t read it yet because I&#039;m RPing on one of District 9&#039;s Facebook pages. For the uninformed: [[Wikipedia:District_9|District 9]]. The Facebook page is}} [http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=57580949635#/MNUSpreadsLies here].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The universe the movie is set in is very interesting, and the fact that the RP is entirely user driven, with no professional posters, even more so. I think I may attempt a short in the universe, but that will probably not show up on shifti.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You Facebook? I never really understood the lure of that thing...I&#039;m not much for social networking. I&#039;ll probably try to work out my account soon enough. Strange thing, this Facebook. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It helps to connect to friends that aren&#039;t near you, and set up group things, and, as I&#039;m now finding out, it&#039;s pretty good for rping as well. This is a [http://www.explosm.net/comics/1137/ facebook]. I don&#039;t really want to link to my facebook from shifti, mainly because I don&#039;t really want my ident to be publicly known yet.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, I understand. I&#039;m so free with my identity because I feel very trapped, and I only find understanding online in people like you. But if you want to add me (on MSN, not Facebook, I don&#039;t use the latter), you&#039;re welcome to do so (drake_halounity[at]hotmail[dot]com)...I&#039;m lonely &#039;cos nobody I know in real life is actually interested in this sorta thing as well. Just don&#039;t send me viruses...&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I masked your email to prevent spamming, and added you to my contacts list. I&#039;ll email/message you at a later time. You might also hop onto the #Transformations irc network. It&#039;s full of like minded individuals.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:27, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* Comments and Critique */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;Kay. Thanks a lot! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Here is a clock for Texas,}} [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=24 timeanddate.com]. --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I just started reading it, and it&#039;s looking pretty good so far. Though you might want to start using pronouns at some point...}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I have now finished the story in it&#039;s current posted form, and must say it is a very good start. A couple of notes:&lt;br /&gt;
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*You mention that the phone is an iPhone, and I&#039;m not sure if Apple would have survived the collapse, much the same way that Microsoft didn&#039;t. We might want to come up with a new mobile device that everyone uses, Otherwise it&#039;s hard to tell that the story takes place in the future. Blind Pig had this present future problem pretty bad.&lt;br /&gt;
*You don&#039;t seem to have any paragraphs. Everything is on a new line, and it makes it a bit difficult to read on a wide-screen monitor.&lt;br /&gt;
*The steak house should have a proper name, Such as &amp;quot;The County Line,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Rudy&#039;s,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The Salt Lick.&amp;quot; Which are all, coincidentally, real BBQ joints in Austin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Your Texas accents aren&#039;t too bad. At the very least, they don&#039;t portray Texans as idiots.&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;Doubt this killer’ll dare to show his face ‘round these parts when the Rangers are here.&amp;quot; might be changed to &amp;quot;..parts with the Rangers in town.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*You drop a lot of Halo cameos in your stories. You might want to tone it down a bit, but that&#039;s more of a personal choice. &lt;br /&gt;
**In this case, the 99D-S2AM sniper rifle is very loud, and very evident as to where the bullet has come from due to the tracer in every round. You might look up some real world sniper rifles that are more anti-personnel and quiet.&lt;br /&gt;
*on the Encryption code: This isn&#039;t necessary, but for an added level of realism, you could research [[Wikipedia:Public Key|Public Key]] cryptography, and change it from Delta to a public key that they would use.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the robber: There are a lot of drunk, homeless, and/or bad people in east Austin, so you might set the Hotel there.&lt;br /&gt;
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And that&#039;s all I could find right now. Keep up the good work.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the praise! As for your comments...&lt;br /&gt;
:*About the iPhone, it&#039;s mainly because I can&#039;t think of anything else. If one of the creators of PaW would step up and offer a nifty new brand, I wouldn&#039;t mind changing.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Paragraphing: I noticed that too, so maybe I&#039;ll switch to double-spacing between paragraphs. I use short paragraphs because it emphasizes suspense (I think).&lt;br /&gt;
:*Naming the steak house: Got it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Texas accents: I worried that it would be offensive as I hate steorotypes. My bad.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Halo cameos: Right. Maybe I&#039;ll change it to a AWC (Arctic Warfare Covert). And, if you didn&#039;t notice, they&#039;re a lot more Halo references, like the Seventh Pillar Hotel is a ref. to the Seventh Column Bungie fangroup (Column is something like Pillar), and how the numbers of all the times add up to [http://www.halo.wikia.com/Seven seven]. And I intend to dump in more Assassin&#039;s Creed references, because I love that game. In case you didn&#039;t read Taylor&#039;s character page on PaW Character Timelines, Taylor bought a [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/Hidden_Blade hidden blade] and repaired it for use. I know too many game references are bad but god I love those games!&lt;br /&gt;
:*Encryption: That&#039;s pretty minor, but maybe I&#039;ll follow your suggestion. I used &amp;quot;Omega&amp;quot; just to make it sound cool, as well as being a reference to my still unfinished [[User:WolfyDrake95/Last Man Standing|Last Man Standing]].&lt;br /&gt;
:*The robber: Okay.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And thus, I reply. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 04:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::An iphone, as is my understanding, does not require the presence of an Apple network in order to be used as a phone, so it is fully possible that it were still in use/production. If you want an alternate brand though, I believe the PAW Collab mentions something about Linux being the new microsoft so you may be able to come up with something there. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 11:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The iPhone does require an AT&amp;amp;T plan, as well as access to the app store. Apple also has a history of locking down their devices, so that they cannot be used to their fullest unless they are illegaly jailbroken. Now if someone more into the open source/Linux community had taken over Apple, the new iPhone could be a linux based device, as well as more open to modification. Such as an encrypted communications application.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 13:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As it stands this story is set so close to the end of the collapse that there will have been little in the way of technological innovation in regards to &amp;quot;consumer electronics&amp;quot;. I can see the jailbreaking applications for the iPhone having become common - hell, I could see someone having broken into Apple&#039;s campus and stolen all of their source as having happened. If the source was stolen, then making it available to the public could have happened as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I say that I can see this kind of thing happening and similar because I will not dictate things like that as having occurred. At this point the setting is still growing and details like that will likely be allowed as &amp;quot;canon&amp;quot;. As the setting grows more details will get filled in it will become harder for people to add major new facets to the setting. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:34, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually, I was thinking of using the iPhone because of its large application database, as well as its functionability (I read in NewsWeek that US snipers use it to calculate bullet drop). The one Taylor has is an upgraded version that the HRM developed for their field operatives. The HRM wasn&#039;t affected much by the Collapse, because it&#039;s quite a large movement and has a lot of powerful people within to support it. The cell featured in the story is only the Texas cell; many other cells are seeded within the New Confederacy. I can imagine someone in Apple being a member of the HRM and supplying them with the tech as well as the programs and applications specially designed for the Movement. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|As a hardware platform, the iPhone is very good. I can see that it could have grown into a much more robust device without Apple limiting it. Really, it&#039;s just kind of weird to see it called an iPhone in a future setting. I don&#039;t know if it should be called something else, but you might need to differentiate it from the iPhone of today.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== On self deprication.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;m noticing a trend with us young writers. We seem to think everything we write is, for lack of a better term, complete sh*t. I echo your author&#039;s note almost exactly on [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. To quote:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Anyways, I don&#039;t want to accidentally wreck your carefully crafted world with my bad fanfiction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if this is a good or bad thing. It may mean we are more open to criticism, but it also means that we may be more prone to giving up on a story before giving it a chance.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think I know why. It&#039;s because when we (at least just me) read good stories (like Michael Bard&#039;s w00t I&#039;m a fan!) we feel that we can&#039;t get up to that standard. When we read other stories in the universe we feel that we can&#039;t maintain that level of awesomeness. And so, we&#039;re terrified that we&#039;ll screw up the story universe. As for whether it&#039;s a good thing or bad...I think good because small bits of praise make me so happy that I get motivated a lot, but bad because if I don&#039;t get any praise or comments I get very demoralized. Queer. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|True enough. On a side note, I still haven&#039;t read it yet because I&#039;m RPing on one of District 9&#039;s Facebook pages. For the uninformed: [[Wikipedia:District_9|District 9]]. The Facebook page is}} [http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=57580949635#/MNUSpreadsLies here].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The universe the movie is set in is very interesting, and the fact that the RP is entirely user driven, with no professional posters, even more so. I think I may attempt a short in the universe, but that will probably not show up on shifti.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You Facebook? I never really understood the lure of that thing...I&#039;m not much for social networking. I&#039;ll probably try to work out my account soon enough. Strange thing, this Facebook. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It helps to connect to friends that aren&#039;t near you, and set up group things, and, as I&#039;m now finding out, it&#039;s pretty good for rping as well. This is a [http://www.explosm.net/comics/1137/ facebook]. I don&#039;t really want to link to my facebook from shifti, mainly because I don&#039;t really want my ident to be publicly known yet.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* Comments and Critique */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;Kay. Thanks a lot! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Here is a clock for Texas,}} [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=24 timeanddate.com]. --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I just started reading it, and it&#039;s looking pretty good so far. Though you might want to start using pronouns at some point...}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I have now finished the story in it&#039;s current posted form, and must say it is a very good start. A couple of notes:&lt;br /&gt;
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*You mention that the phone is an iPhone, and I&#039;m not sure if Apple would have survived the collapse, much the same way that Microsoft didn&#039;t. We might want to come up with a new mobile device that everyone uses, Otherwise it&#039;s hard to tell that the story takes place in the future. Blind Pig had this present future problem pretty bad.&lt;br /&gt;
*You don&#039;t seem to have any paragraphs. Everything is on a new line, and it makes it a bit difficult to read on a wide-screen monitor.&lt;br /&gt;
*The steak house should have a proper name, Such as &amp;quot;The County Line,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Rudy&#039;s,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The Salt Lick.&amp;quot; Which are all, coincidentally, real BBQ joints in Austin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Your Texas accents aren&#039;t too bad. At the very least, they don&#039;t portray Texans as idiots.&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;Doubt this killer’ll dare to show his face ‘round these parts when the Rangers are here.&amp;quot; might be changed to &amp;quot;..parts with the Rangers in town.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*You drop a lot of Halo cameos in your stories. You might want to tone it down a bit, but that&#039;s more of a personal choice. &lt;br /&gt;
**In this case, the 99D-S2AM sniper rifle is very loud, and very evident as to where the bullet has come from due to the tracer in every round. You might look up some real world sniper rifles that are more anti-personnel and quiet.&lt;br /&gt;
*on the Encryption code: This isn&#039;t necessary, but for an added level of realism, you could research [[Wikipedia:Public Key|Public Key]] cryptography, and change it from Delta to a public key that they would use.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the robber: There are a lot of drunk, homeless, and/or bad people in east Austin, so you might set the Hotel there.&lt;br /&gt;
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And that&#039;s all I could find right now. Keep up the good work.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the praise! As for your comments...&lt;br /&gt;
:*About the iPhone, it&#039;s mainly because I can&#039;t think of anything else. If one of the creators of PaW would step up and offer a nifty new brand, I wouldn&#039;t mind changing.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Paragraphing: I noticed that too, so maybe I&#039;ll switch to double-spacing between paragraphs. I use short paragraphs because it emphasizes suspense (I think).&lt;br /&gt;
:*Naming the steak house: Got it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Texas accents: I worried that it would be offensive as I hate steorotypes. My bad.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Halo cameos: Right. Maybe I&#039;ll change it to a AWC (Arctic Warfare Covert). And, if you didn&#039;t notice, they&#039;re a lot more Halo references, like the Seventh Pillar Hotel is a ref. to the Seventh Column Bungie fangroup (Column is something like Pillar), and how the numbers of all the times add up to [http://www.halo.wikia.com/Seven seven]. And I intend to dump in more Assassin&#039;s Creed references, because I love that game. In case you didn&#039;t read Taylor&#039;s character page on PaW Character Timelines, Taylor bought a [http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/Hidden_Blade hidden blade] and repaired it for use. I know too many game references are bad but god I love those games!&lt;br /&gt;
:*Encryption: That&#039;s pretty minor, but maybe I&#039;ll follow your suggestion. I used &amp;quot;Omega&amp;quot; just to make it sound cool, as well as being a reference to my still unfinished [[User:WolfyDrake95/Last Man Standing|Last Man Standing]].&lt;br /&gt;
:*The robber: Okay.&lt;br /&gt;
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:And thus, I reply. &amp;amp;mdash[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 04:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::An iphone, as is my understanding, does not require the presence of an Apple network in order to be used as a phone, so it is fully possible that it were still in use/production. If you want an alternate brand though, I believe the PAW Collab mentions something about Linux being the new microsoft so you may be able to come up with something there. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 11:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The iPhone does require an AT&amp;amp;T plan, as well as access to the app store. Apple also has a history of locking down their devices, so that they cannot be used to their fullest unless they are illegaly jailbroken. Now if someone more into the open source/Linux community had taken over Apple, the new iPhone could be a linux based device, as well as more open to modification. Such as an encrypted communications application.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 13:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== On self deprication.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;m noticing a trend with us young writers. We seem to think everything we write is, for lack of a better term, complete sh*t. I echo your author&#039;s note almost exactly on [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. To quote:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Anyways, I don&#039;t want to accidentally wreck your carefully crafted world with my bad fanfiction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if this is a good or bad thing. It may mean we are more open to criticism, but it also means that we may be more prone to giving up on a story before giving it a chance.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think I know why. It&#039;s because when we (at least just me) read good stories (like Michael Bard&#039;s w00t I&#039;m a fan!) we feel that we can&#039;t get up to that standard. When we read other stories in the universe we feel that we can&#039;t maintain that level of awesomeness. And so, we&#039;re terrified that we&#039;ll screw up the story universe. As for whether it&#039;s a good thing or bad...I think good because small bits of praise make me so happy that I get motivated a lot, but bad because if I don&#039;t get any praise or comments I get very demoralized. Queer. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|True enough. On a side note, I still haven&#039;t read it yet because I&#039;m RPing on one of District 9&#039;s Facebook pages. For the uninformed: [[Wikipedia:District_9|District 9]]. The Facebook page is}} [http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=57580949635#/MNUSpreadsLies here].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The universe the movie is set in is very interesting, and the fact that the RP is entirely user driven, with no professional posters, even more so. I think I may attempt a short in the universe, but that will probably not show up on shifti.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You Facebook? I never really understood the lure of that thing...I&#039;m not much for social networking. I&#039;ll probably try to work out my account soon enough. Strange thing, this Facebook. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It helps to connect to friends that aren&#039;t near you, and set up group things, and, as I&#039;m now finding out, it&#039;s pretty good for rping as well. This is a [http://www.explosm.net/comics/1137/ facebook]. I don&#039;t really want to link to my facebook from shifti, mainly because I don&#039;t really want my ident to be publicly known yet.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* Storyline Discussion */ Texas clock.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;Kay. Thanks a lot! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Here is a clock for Texas,}} [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fullscreen.html?n=24 timeanddate.com]. --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I just started reading it, and it&#039;s looking pretty good so far. Though you might want to start using pronouns at some point...}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I have now finished the story in it&#039;s current posted form, and must say it is a very good start. A couple of notes:&lt;br /&gt;
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*You mention that the phone is an iPhone, and I&#039;m not sure if Apple would have survived the collapse, much the same way that Microsoft didn&#039;t. We might want to come up with a new mobile device that everyone uses, Otherwise it&#039;s hard to tell that the story takes place in the future. Blind Pig had this present future problem pretty bad.&lt;br /&gt;
*You don&#039;t seem to have any paragraphs. Everything is on a new line, and it makes it a bit difficult to read on a wide-screen monitor.&lt;br /&gt;
*The steak house should have a proper name, Such as &amp;quot;The County Line,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Rudy&#039;s,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The Salt Lick.&amp;quot; Which are all, coincidentally, real BBQ joints in Austin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Your Texas accents aren&#039;t to bad. At the very least, they don&#039;t portray Texans as idiots.&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;Doubt this killer’ll dare to show his face ‘round these parts when the Rangers are here.&amp;quot; might be changed to &amp;quot;..parts with the Rangers in town.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*You drop a lot of Halo cameos in your stories. You might want to tone it down a bit, but that&#039;s more of a personal choice. &lt;br /&gt;
**In this case, the 99D-S2AM sniper rifle is very loud, and very evident as to where the bullet has come from due to the tracer in every round. You might look up some real world sniper rifles that are more anti-personnel and quiet.&lt;br /&gt;
*on the Encryption code: This isn&#039;t necessary, but for an added level of realism, you could research [[Wikipedia:Public Key|Public Key]] cryptography, and change it from Delta to a public key that they would use.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the robber: There are a lot of drunk, homeless, and/or bad people in east Austin, so you might set the Hotel there.&lt;br /&gt;
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And that&#039;s all I could find right now. Keep up the good work.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== On self deprication.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;m noticing a trend with us young writers. We seem to think everything we write is, for lack of a better term, complete sh*t. I echo your author&#039;s note almost exactly on [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. To quote:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Anyways, I don&#039;t want to accidentally wreck your carefully crafted world with my bad fanfiction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if this is a good or bad thing. It may mean we are more open to criticism, but it also means that we may be more prone to giving up on a story before giving it a chance.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think I know why. It&#039;s because when we (at least just me) read good stories (like Michael Bard&#039;s w00t I&#039;m a fan!) we feel that we can&#039;t get up to that standard. When we read other stories in the universe we feel that we can&#039;t maintain that level of awesomeness. And so, we&#039;re terrified that we&#039;ll screw up the story universe. As for whether it&#039;s a good thing or bad...I think good because small bits of praise make me so happy that I get motivated a lot, but bad because if I don&#039;t get any praise or comments I get very demoralized. Queer. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|True enough. On a side note, I still haven&#039;t read it yet because I&#039;m RPing on one of District 9&#039;s Facebook pages. For the uninformed: [[Wikipedia:District_9|District 9]]. The Facebook page is}} [http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=57580949635#/MNUSpreadsLies here].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The universe the movie is set in is very interesting, and the fact that the RP is entirely user driven, with no professional posters, even more so. I think I may attempt a short in the universe, but that will probably not show up on shifti.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You Facebook? I never really understood the lure of that thing...I&#039;m not much for social networking. I&#039;ll probably try to work out my account soon enough. Strange thing, this Facebook. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It helps to connect to friends that aren&#039;t near you, and set up group things, and, as I&#039;m now finding out, it&#039;s pretty good for rping as well. This is a [http://www.explosm.net/comics/1137/ facebook]. I don&#039;t really want to link to my facebook from shifti, mainly because I don&#039;t really want my ident to be publicly known yet.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;Kay. Thanks a lot! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I just started reading it, and it&#039;s looking pretty good so far. Though you might want to start using pronouns at some point...}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I have now finished the story in it&#039;s current posted form, and must say it is a very good start. A couple of notes:&lt;br /&gt;
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*You mention that the phone is an iPhone, and I&#039;m not sure if Apple would have survived the collapse, much the same way that Microsoft didn&#039;t. We might want to come up with a new mobile device that everyone uses, Otherwise it&#039;s hard to tell that the story takes place in the future. Blind Pig had this present future problem pretty bad.&lt;br /&gt;
*You don&#039;t seem to have any paragraphs. Everything is on a new line, and it makes it a bit difficult to read on a wide-screen monitor.&lt;br /&gt;
*The steak house should have a proper name, Such as &amp;quot;The County Line,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Rudy&#039;s,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;The Salt Lick.&amp;quot; Which are all, coincidentally, real BBQ joints in Austin.&lt;br /&gt;
*Your Texas accents aren&#039;t to bad. At the very least, they don&#039;t portray Texans as idiots.&lt;br /&gt;
**&amp;quot;Doubt this killer’ll dare to show his face ‘round these parts when the Rangers are here.&amp;quot; might be changed to &amp;quot;..parts with the Rangers in town.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*You drop a lot of Halo cameos in your stories. You might want to tone it down a bit, but that&#039;s more of a personal choice. &lt;br /&gt;
**In this case, the 99D-S2AM sniper rifle is very loud, and very evident as to where the bullet has come from due to the tracer in every round. You might look up some real world sniper rifles that are more anti-personnel and quiet.&lt;br /&gt;
*on the Encryption code: This isn&#039;t necessary, but for an added level of realism, you could research [[Wikipedia:Public Key|Public Key]] cryptography, and change it from Delta to a public key that they would use.&lt;br /&gt;
*On the robber: There are a lot of drunk, homeless, and/or bad people in east Austin, so you might set the Hotel there.&lt;br /&gt;
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And that&#039;s all I could find right now. Keep up the good work.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 04:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== On self deprication.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;m noticing a trend with us young writers. We seem to think everything we write is, for lack of a better term, complete sh*t. I echo your author&#039;s note almost exactly on [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. To quote:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Anyways, I don&#039;t want to accidentally wreck your carefully crafted world with my bad fanfiction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if this is a good or bad thing. It may mean we are more open to criticism, but it also means that we may be more prone to giving up on a story before giving it a chance.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think I know why. It&#039;s because when we (at least just me) read good stories (like Michael Bard&#039;s w00t I&#039;m a fan!) we feel that we can&#039;t get up to that standard. When we read other stories in the universe we feel that we can&#039;t maintain that level of awesomeness. And so, we&#039;re terrified that we&#039;ll screw up the story universe. As for whether it&#039;s a good thing or bad...I think good because small bits of praise make me so happy that I get motivated a lot, but bad because if I don&#039;t get any praise or comments I get very demoralized. Queer. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|True enough. On a side note, I still haven&#039;t read it yet because I&#039;m RPing on one of District 9&#039;s Facebook pages. For the uninformed: [[Wikipedia:District_9|District 9]]. The Facebook page is}} [http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=57580949635#/MNUSpreadsLies here].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The universe the movie is set in is very interesting, and the fact that the RP is entirely user driven, with no professional posters, even more so. I think I may attempt a short in the universe, but that will probably not show up on shifti.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You Facebook? I never really understood the lure of that thing...I&#039;m not much for social networking. I&#039;ll probably try to work out my account soon enough. Strange thing, this Facebook. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It helps to connect to friends that aren&#039;t near you, and set up group things, and, as I&#039;m now finding out, it&#039;s pretty good for rping as well. This is a [http://www.explosm.net/comics/1137/ facebook]. I don&#039;t really want to link to my facebook from shifti, mainly because I don&#039;t really want my ident to be publicly known yet.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* Comments and Critique */ pronouns are good things.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;Kay. Thanks a lot! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I just started reading it, and it&#039;s looking pretty good so far. Though you might want to start using pronouns at some point...}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== On self deprication.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;m noticing a trend with us young writers. We seem to think everything we write is, for lack of a better term, complete sh*t. I echo your author&#039;s note almost exactly on [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. To quote:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Anyways, I don&#039;t want to accidentally wreck your carefully crafted world with my bad fanfiction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if this is a good or bad thing. It may mean we are more open to criticism, but it also means that we may be more prone to giving up on a story before giving it a chance.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think I know why. It&#039;s because when we (at least just me) read good stories (like Michael Bard&#039;s w00t I&#039;m a fan!) we feel that we can&#039;t get up to that standard. When we read other stories in the universe we feel that we can&#039;t maintain that level of awesomeness. And so, we&#039;re terrified that we&#039;ll screw up the story universe. As for whether it&#039;s a good thing or bad...I think good because small bits of praise make me so happy that I get motivated a lot, but bad because if I don&#039;t get any praise or comments I get very demoralized. Queer. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|True enough. On a side note, I still haven&#039;t read it yet because I&#039;m RPing on one of District 9&#039;s Facebook pages. For the uninformed: [[Wikipedia:District_9|District 9]]. The Facebook page is}} [http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=57580949635#/MNUSpreadsLies here].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The universe the movie is set in is very interesting, and the fact that the RP is entirely user driven, with no professional posters, even more so. I think I may attempt a short in the universe, but that will probably not show up on shifti.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You Facebook? I never really understood the lure of that thing...I&#039;m not much for social networking. I&#039;ll probably try to work out my account soon enough. Strange thing, this Facebook. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It helps to connect to friends that aren&#039;t near you, and set up group things, and, as I&#039;m now finding out, it&#039;s pretty good for rping as well. This is a [http://www.explosm.net/comics/1137/ facebook]. I don&#039;t really want to link to my facebook from shifti, mainly because I don&#039;t really want my ident to be publicly known yet.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* On self deprication. */  It&amp;#039;s a book, of Faces!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;Kay. Thanks a lot! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== On self deprication.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;m noticing a trend with us young writers. We seem to think everything we write is, for lack of a better term, complete sh*t. I echo your author&#039;s note almost exactly on [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. To quote:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Anyways, I don&#039;t want to accidentally wreck your carefully crafted world with my bad fanfiction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if this is a good or bad thing. It may mean we are more open to criticism, but it also means that we may be more prone to giving up on a story before giving it a chance.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think I know why. It&#039;s because when we (at least just me) read good stories (like Michael Bard&#039;s w00t I&#039;m a fan!) we feel that we can&#039;t get up to that standard. When we read other stories in the universe we feel that we can&#039;t maintain that level of awesomeness. And so, we&#039;re terrified that we&#039;ll screw up the story universe. As for whether it&#039;s a good thing or bad...I think good because small bits of praise make me so happy that I get motivated a lot, but bad because if I don&#039;t get any praise or comments I get very demoralized. Queer. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|True enough. On a side note, I still haven&#039;t read it yet because I&#039;m RPing on one of District 9&#039;s Facebook pages. For the uninformed: [[Wikipedia:District_9|District 9]]. The Facebook page is}} [http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=57580949635#/MNUSpreadsLies here].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The universe the movie is set in is very interesting, and the fact that the RP is entirely user driven, with no professional posters, even more so. I think I may attempt a short in the universe, but that will probably not show up on shifti.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You Facebook? I never really understood the lure of that thing...I&#039;m not much for social networking. I&#039;ll probably try to work out my account soon enough. Strange thing, this Facebook. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:56, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It helps to connect to friends that aren&#039;t near you, and set up group things, and, as I&#039;m now finding out, it&#039;s pretty good for rping as well. This is a [http://www.explosm.net/comics/1137/ facebook]. I don&#039;t really want to link to my facebook from shifti, mainly because I don&#039;t really want my ident to be publicly known yet.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 03:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User talk:WolfyDrake95/Price in Blood</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* On self deprication. */ Horray something or other.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;Kay. Thanks a lot! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== On self deprication.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;m noticing a trend with us young writers. We seem to think everything we write is, for lack of a better term, complete sh*t. I echo your author&#039;s note almost exactly on [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. To quote:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Anyways, I don&#039;t want to accidentally wreck your carefully crafted world with my bad fanfiction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if this is a good or bad thing. It may mean we are more open to criticism, but it also means that we may be more prone to giving up on a story before giving it a chance.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think I know why. It&#039;s because when we (at least just me) read good stories (like Michael Bard&#039;s w00t I&#039;m a fan!) we feel that we can&#039;t get up to that standard. When we read other stories in the universe we feel that we can&#039;t maintain that level of awesomeness. And so, we&#039;re terrified that we&#039;ll screw up the story universe. As for whether it&#039;s a good thing or bad...I think good because small bits of praise make me so happy that I get motivated a lot, but bad because if I don&#039;t get any praise or comments I get very demoralized. Queer. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:18, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|True enough. On a side note, I still haven&#039;t read it yet because I&#039;m RPing on one of District 9&#039;s Facebook pages. For the uninformed: [[Wikipedia:District_9|District 9]]. The Facebook page is}} [http://www.facebook.com/board.php?uid=57580949635#/MNUSpreadsLies here].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The universe the movie is set in is very interesting, and the fact that the RP is entirely user driven, with no professional posters, even more so. I think I may attempt a short in the universe, but that will probably not show up on shifti.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:31, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User talk:WolfyDrake95/Price in Blood</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* On self deprication.  */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;Kay. Thanks a lot! &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== On self deprication.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|I&#039;m noticing a trend with us young writers. We seem to think everything we write is, for lack of a better term, complete sh*t. I echo your author&#039;s note almost exactly on [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. To quote:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Anyways, I don&#039;t want to accidentally wreck your carefully crafted world with my bad fanfiction.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if this is a good or bad thing. It may mean we are more open to criticism, but it also means that we may be more prone to giving up on a story before giving it a chance.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yup, that&#039;s about right. But don&#039;t worry, I get up at four-thirty in the morning often enough (usually to do homework; I procrastinate). So there&#039;s no problem in meeting online, I guess. As for you going out of town, that&#039;s fine with me. I probably won&#039;t be getting to that part soon. And thanks for the info on Jonas, though I suppose I&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd to reveal more...it&#039;s like some kind of conspiracy! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:49, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jonas catches the Torch when he&#039;s 16, comes to Polyton when he&#039;s 17, and Fool takes place when he&#039;s 18 and it also happens in the summer of 2031. I have no objections to you using Jonas in your story by the way, that&#039;s one of the ideas behind a shared setting after all. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 13:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sigh...I&#039;m sorry, but I don&#039;t think I can cameo Jonas, because of the timeline. You see, my story needs the civil unrest of the 2020s. Jonas is eighteen in year 2031, meaning he would be eight and un-TFORed in 2021. So, unfortunately, I can&#039;t place him in there, because it would result in a timeline clash. Sorry. Perhaps in a sequel... &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:37, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and could somebody enlighten me as to the kind of symptoms Blowtorch Fever causes? I&#039;m only sure of the high fever and the cravings; the PaW page only listed those. Are there any others? Thanks. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|And I&#039;m back in town. I haven&#039;t had a chance to read it yet. I&#039;ll do that tonight. On Blowtorch, It only causes cravings if TFORS is also contracted, otherwise it&#039;s just a very deadly fever.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Comments and Critique==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey guys, Wolfy here. Right now you&#039;ve probably seen that I just uploaded the first segment of my story. If there&#039;s anything you think is bad, say so now! Thanks! Oh, and good comments are welcome too. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 08:52, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You&#039;ve shown great improvements from your first foray into writing. I&#039;ve thoroughly enjoyed what you have here right now and will be waiting for more. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wow, thanks for the praise! I kind of worried that I didn&#039;t manage to convey Taylor&#039;s character as a ruthless assassin very well, but really, thanks! I&#039;m writing the actual assassination part now. Your praise is now compelling me to write more...Thanks once more! :D &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:22, 9 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: timezones are weird...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets. Wow, it looks like we are on exactly opposite time zones. When I&#039;m waking up, you&#039;re finishing your day.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: infos&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
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On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
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::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
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::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
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::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awesome! I&#039;ll drop you a message on your talk page or here or something when I get to that part. In the meantime I&#039;ll be working on the intro and assassination, as well as investigating the strange EtherPad. Off to sleep now! :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;ADDITION&#039;&#039;&#039;Hey, CR, where do you live? As in, timezone. I&#039;m not going to look you up or anything; I just need to sync times so that if we need to meet for a real-time collab we won&#039;t screw up the timings. That sorta thing. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:08, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I should probably mention that TFOR is the acronymn for Transformative Failure of Ontogenetic Regulation. &#039;&#039;Teefer&#039;&#039; is the term used for those who were affected by TFOR. --[[User:Lloyd Brunnel|Lloyd]] 19:02, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah, yes. My mistake. Thanks for pitching in! By the way, when does Jonas catch the Torch? Because I like to put little cameos of characters I like, and Jonas is one of them. Even if the cameos are something as small as stepping on his tail. And when does [[The Fool in the Fox]] take place? It&#039;d be useful if I knew when Jonas and Allan met. By the way, if you object to a cameo, it&#039;s fine with me. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 07:04, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Fool in the Fox takes place sometime around 2032. Other than that you&#039;ll have to wait for Lloyd. I live in GMT-6, but will be out of town for a few days, so I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll have internets.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 12:24, 6 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User talk:WolfyDrake95/Price in Blood</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
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As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, exactly. It&#039;s supposed to be like that; the target is supposed to be human, but supporting TFORs. Here&#039;s an excerpt of what I&#039;ve written so far:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::“This is your assignment. Find this man, and kill him. Silence him. I believe that you, of all the others, are up to this task. We already have the necessary information regarding him, but it shall be no easy task, since he is so successful that the TFORs have begun offering him protection.” &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::“Wait,” Taylor cut in, unheeding of the protocols of respect. “This man is human. An innocent. He has done no wrong and neither is he one of &#039;&#039;them&#039;&#039;—”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::“Don’t you see?” Myers slammed his hands on the table, emotion evidently forcing him out of his seat. “This man is corrupting the minds of the people! Human or not, he must be silenced. He is the voice of those beasts, and he has to be silenced, lest the people turn and support them instead of our noble cause!”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Myers dropped back into his seat, seeming to regain control of his emotions. But looking at the man, Taylor saw a fire burning in his eyes as he continued, “You should know this, of all people. Anyone supporting the TFORs is a threat, and these TFORs are the greatest danger to our society. Or have you forgotten how they &#039;&#039;killed&#039;&#039; your parents, and how we had to take you in, shield you from the beasts and their claws and their teeth?”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Now it was Taylor’s turn to rise, hands balled into fists. His words were dark, cold, but seething anger underlined them. “I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; forgot, and I &#039;&#039;never&#039;&#039; will.”&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, so that&#039;s the reason why Taylor eventually agrees to it. But it&#039;s exactly this reason that plants a little doubt in Taylor&#039;s mind...it hints to him that humans can live alongside TFORs perfectly fine, something that his upbringing told him was impossible. As for the things about power characters, yeah, I&#039;ve read that. Of course I&#039;ll work in some limitations, but I&#039;ll deal with that when I get there. Right now I&#039;m working the intro. As for dialog...yeah, we could use this &amp;quot;EtherPad&amp;quot; that RM talked about. Seems pretty useful. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Sounds like a plan.}}--[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:08, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Price_in_Blood&amp;diff=12790</id>
		<title>User talk:WolfyDrake95/Price in Blood</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Price_in_Blood&amp;diff=12790"/>
		<updated>2009-08-05T14:18:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: Things happen, replies are made.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Storyline Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...now that I think of it, maybe this activist shouldn&#039;t be a TFOR at all. Instead, I&#039;m thinking having him as a normal human would be far better for the storyline. As for the main character, I&#039;m naming him Taylor Miles, after the Halo 3: ODST [http://www.halo.wikia.com/wiki/Taylor_Miles character of the same name]. He&#039;s probably going to wind up some kinda wolf (grey or arctic), but you might have guessed that I liked wolves from my name, so this isn&#039;t a surprise. And he&#039;s going to have some limited object manipulation capabilities, which he can use to accelerate or manipulate bullets or throwing knives, for example. That sorta thing. I&#039;ll upload when I&#039;m done with the first couple of chapters. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:50, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|A human activist would have a much higher chance of causing an upset in Taylor. If he expects to be shooting at what he believes are &amp;quot;animals,&amp;quot; or whatever the propaganda is, then he may have issues with shooting a human being. I have noticed that you like wolves, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the issue of power characters, I&#039;ll link you to my talk page on [[Talk:Rebuilding|rebuilding]]. Both Lloyd and ShadowWolf had something to say about power characters, so it&#039;s worth a read. The main notes are to come up with definite limits on his powers, and definite consequences.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On a side note, because Allan is human, but also a TFOR, it could lead to interesting conversation things with Taylor. I enjoy discussions of &amp;quot;what makes a human&amp;quot; so I would love to come up with dialog with you.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting_Go&amp;diff=12781</id>
		<title>User talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting Go</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting_Go&amp;diff=12781"/>
		<updated>2009-08-04T16:44:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: I want to see an Armadillo TFOR.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #006400;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sorry for not being on sooner. I&#039;ve gotten lazy these past few weeks, so I haven&#039;t been on. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I skimmed through the story, and the writing, prose, and all that seem good. It&#039;s just not my type of story. I really don&#039;t like reading depressing things, though I may write them on occasion. Sorry I couldn&#039;t be more helpful.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 05:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Nah, it&#039;s okay. Honestly though, I had high hopes for this story when it came up, imagining it to be about as good as [[User:WolfyDrake95/Finding Himself|Finding Himself]]. But when this got halfway through production...it didn&#039;t turn out the way I&#039;d imagined it. Nothing ever does. Still, I didn&#039;t want to abandon another story, so I just finished it and posted. Admittedly lousy, I don&#039;t blame Shadow when he says that it didn&#039;t interest him. In hindsight, I believe too many dumb sad stories get a little boring. I&#039;m planning some &amp;quot;happier&amp;quot; ones, though managing which ones I write is a little tough. I&#039;m grappling with about three or four right now (Last Man Standing, in production, two Xanadu stories, also in production, and a continuation for my Paradise series, which took the back seat recently). Sucks when I get the ideas, but not enough time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:On the upside, though, I&#039;m also planning an assasination story, and I&#039;m sorta thinking...Chakona Space, Pig and Whistle, or the [http://assasinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed Assassin&#039;s Creed] universe? Tough choice. By the way, does PaW have any big wars or conflict (open hostility and civil unrest works too) directly preceding, or ongoing during, the main storyline, and lots of anti-fur discrimination? These play an important role in my idea, and PaW seems the most promising universe for it, being the one that&#039;s already cut out for furs, and is the one I am most familiar with. I&#039;ll be going through those timelines of yours&amp;amp;mdash;here&#039;s a thanks in advance! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 06:49, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Got it. Shifting the timeline ahead, assassination now occurs in 2021. Oh, and can anyone help me think up a name and TFOR type for the pro-TFOR activist? I&#039;m terrible at name-choosing and power-picking. Some help, please. I&#039;ve written the intro, but right now I have to sleep. It&#039;s midnight over here. :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 16:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|It seems to me that there is a high density of certain types of anthros in these settings. Generally of felines, lupines, and canines. I&#039;m going to try and remedy that in my next story, because there are a lot of different species on earth, and the virus can even use ones not of this earth. So just as a challenge, you might try something out of the ordinary.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the powers, only 30% of all teefers receive powers, so he may not have a &amp;quot;super&amp;quot; power, but he could have a biological capability. Such as hardened skin or extreme reflexes. An Armadillo TFOR might work, as it could lead to the bullet failing to penetrate far enough to be lethal. Just remember that the species should affect how the story progresses, instead of just being a block of descriptive text.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As for names, I&#039;m terrible at names. You could try flipping through a phonebook, and picking out random first and last names to throw together.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 16:44, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Critique_requested&amp;diff=12777</id>
		<title>Template talk:Critique requested</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=Template_talk:Critique_requested&amp;diff=12777"/>
		<updated>2009-08-04T15:39:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Wow! It&#039;s like a Bat-signal for Shadowwolf! :) —[[User:Robotech Master|Robotech Master]] 15:35, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|We should just change the name to &amp;quot;ShadowWolf requested.&amp;quot;}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting_Go&amp;diff=12772</id>
		<title>User talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting Go</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting_Go&amp;diff=12772"/>
		<updated>2009-08-04T15:21:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: I put me before you. That&amp;#039;s bad grammar.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #006400;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sorry for not being on sooner. I&#039;ve gotten lazy these past few weeks, so I haven&#039;t been on. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I skimmed through the story, and the writing, prose, and all that seem good. It&#039;s just not my type of story. I really don&#039;t like reading depressing things, though I may write them on occasion. Sorry I couldn&#039;t be more helpful.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 05:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Nah, it&#039;s okay. Honestly though, I had high hopes for this story when it came up, imagining it to be about as good as [[User:WolfyDrake95/Finding Himself|Finding Himself]]. But when this got halfway through production...it didn&#039;t turn out the way I&#039;d imagined it. Nothing ever does. Still, I didn&#039;t want to abandon another story, so I just finished it and posted. Admittedly lousy, I don&#039;t blame Shadow when he says that it didn&#039;t interest him. In hindsight, I believe too many dumb sad stories get a little boring. I&#039;m planning some &amp;quot;happier&amp;quot; ones, though managing which ones I write is a little tough. I&#039;m grappling with about three or four right now (Last Man Standing, in production, two Xanadu stories, also in production, and a continuation for my Paradise series, which took the back seat recently). Sucks when I get the ideas, but not enough time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:On the upside, though, I&#039;m also planning an assasination story, and I&#039;m sorta thinking...Chakona Space, Pig and Whistle, or the [http://assasinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed Assassin&#039;s Creed] universe? Tough choice. By the way, does PaW have any big wars or conflict (open hostility and civil unrest works too) directly preceding, or ongoing during, the main storyline, and lots of anti-fur discrimination? These play an important role in my idea, and PaW seems the most promising universe for it, being the one that&#039;s already cut out for furs, and is the one I am most familiar with. I&#039;ll be going through those timelines of yours&amp;amp;mdash;here&#039;s a thanks in advance! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 06:49, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both you and me.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting_Go&amp;diff=12771</id>
		<title>User talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting Go</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting_Go&amp;diff=12771"/>
		<updated>2009-08-04T15:20:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: &amp;lt;2020 might not work for Allan.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #006400;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sorry for not being on sooner. I&#039;ve gotten lazy these past few weeks, so I haven&#039;t been on. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I skimmed through the story, and the writing, prose, and all that seem good. It&#039;s just not my type of story. I really don&#039;t like reading depressing things, though I may write them on occasion. Sorry I couldn&#039;t be more helpful.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 05:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Nah, it&#039;s okay. Honestly though, I had high hopes for this story when it came up, imagining it to be about as good as [[User:WolfyDrake95/Finding Himself|Finding Himself]]. But when this got halfway through production...it didn&#039;t turn out the way I&#039;d imagined it. Nothing ever does. Still, I didn&#039;t want to abandon another story, so I just finished it and posted. Admittedly lousy, I don&#039;t blame Shadow when he says that it didn&#039;t interest him. In hindsight, I believe too many dumb sad stories get a little boring. I&#039;m planning some &amp;quot;happier&amp;quot; ones, though managing which ones I write is a little tough. I&#039;m grappling with about three or four right now (Last Man Standing, in production, two Xanadu stories, also in production, and a continuation for my Paradise series, which took the back seat recently). Sucks when I get the ideas, but not enough time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:On the upside, though, I&#039;m also planning an assasination story, and I&#039;m sorta thinking...Chakona Space, Pig and Whistle, or the [http://assasinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed Assassin&#039;s Creed] universe? Tough choice. By the way, does PaW have any big wars or conflict (open hostility and civil unrest works too) directly preceding, or ongoing during, the main storyline, and lots of anti-fur discrimination? These play an important role in my idea, and PaW seems the most promising universe for it, being the one that&#039;s already cut out for furs, and is the one I am most familiar with. I&#039;ll be going through those timelines of yours&amp;amp;mdash;here&#039;s a thanks in advance! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 06:49, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:As late as 2040 there are still people in the region that was once &amp;quot;The New Confederacy&amp;quot; that still perform anti-teefer terrorist acts. From what I can tell of your idea it would need to be no later than 2025 because around 2025 the &amp;quot;resistance&amp;quot; in that region has become wildly decentralized and so fractured that it has been known to attack other branches. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:53, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually I was thinking along the lines of pre-2020, so that the main character could go live with Allan without Allan being preoccupied by bombings and death. So, skirmish in 2010s, training from 2011 through 2015, then assassination in 2016. More or less. I can already imagine fight scenes and gunfire and flying knives and two-meter leaps. All in my head, of course, and this messes up my lessons in school. By the way, where exactly does Allan live? And when is Lloyd&#039;s story set? I might be able to pull Jonas Balfour into this. :)&lt;br /&gt;
::And ShadowWolf&#039;s right about my story. I need it to be some kind of anti-TFOR splinter cell (I like the words &amp;quot;splinter cell&amp;quot;: they&#039;re cool) that attacks pro-TFOR activists. I&#039;ll start on it right away, but this week I have to prep for my school&#039;s National Day Parade, so I&#039;m kinda busy. I&#039;ll find time; I wake up at 5:30 sometimes just to check Shifti for updates before going to school. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 15:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|If it was set before 2020, which is when I set Rebuilding, I would have to go back and retcon a lot of exposition into it to make mention of MC, so to be perfectly honest, I think late 2020-2021 would be the best setting for MC and Allan to meet. That gives two years, and story material for both me and you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before 2020, Allan lived in California, near LA. Around 2020, he moved to just above Amarillo, Texas. 2021, when he&#039;s in college, if he gets into University of Texas, He&#039;ll be living in Austin Texas.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 15:20, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting_Go&amp;diff=12766</id>
		<title>User talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting Go</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting_Go&amp;diff=12766"/>
		<updated>2009-08-04T14:43:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: I love my green template. It makes life so much easier.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #006400;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sorry for not being on sooner. I&#039;ve gotten lazy these past few weeks, so I haven&#039;t been on. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I skimmed through the story, and the writing, prose, and all that seem good. It&#039;s just not my type of story. I really don&#039;t like reading depressing things, though I may write them on occasion. Sorry I couldn&#039;t be more helpful.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 05:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Nah, it&#039;s okay. Honestly though, I had high hopes for this story when it came up, imagining it to be about as good as [[User:WolfyDrake95/Finding Himself|Finding Himself]]. But when this got halfway through production...it didn&#039;t turn out the way I&#039;d imagined it. Nothing ever does. Still, I didn&#039;t want to abandon another story, so I just finished it and posted. Admittedly lousy, I don&#039;t blame Shadow when he says that it didn&#039;t interest him. In hindsight, I believe too many dumb sad stories get a little boring. I&#039;m planning some &amp;quot;happier&amp;quot; ones, though managing which ones I write is a little tough. I&#039;m grappling with about three or four right now (Last Man Standing, in production, two Xanadu stories, also in production, and a continuation for my Paradise series, which took the back seat recently). Sucks when I get the ideas, but not enough time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:On the upside, though, I&#039;m also planning an assasination story, and I&#039;m sorta thinking...Chakona Space, Pig and Whistle, or the [http://assasinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed Assassin&#039;s Creed] universe? Tough choice. By the way, does PaW have any big wars or conflict (open hostility and civil unrest works too) directly preceding, or ongoing during, the main storyline, and lots of anti-fur discrimination? These play an important role in my idea, and PaW seems the most promising universe for it, being the one that&#039;s already cut out for furs, and is the one I am most familiar with. I&#039;ll be going through those timelines of yours&amp;amp;mdash;here&#039;s a thanks in advance! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 06:49, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmm...I think PaW works, because my mind&#039;s already working out the kinks of the story. Well, I&#039;ll tell you what I&#039;m planning now. &#039;&#039;&#039;SPOILER WARNING!!!&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Price in Blood&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;amp;mdash;At the very end of some conflict (2015?), there is a skirmish between TFORs and an anti-TFOR splinter cell. This is when the main character&#039;s parents are killed, and the leader of the splinter cell finds him, takes him in, and slowly nurtures a hatred for TFORs, fuelled by his parents&#039; deaths. Or, alternatively, his parents could have been the victims of the Brown incident (see Lloyd&#039;s [[Case Briefing: Leon v. Stewart]], but I haven&#039;t asked him yet), and died thereof. Same thing happens with the cell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then the main character is trained, and within years (2019?) he is sent on his first mission for the cell: to go assassinate an outspoken pro-TFOR activist who&#039;s promoting TFOR equality and all that. The first time, a sniper attack is attempted; it fails, and the main character resorts to a direct knifing, etc. But then the main character catches the Torch, and collapses at the crucial moment of the assassination. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The activist doesn&#039;t press charges on accounts of his age, but instead sends the main character to a friend&#039;s house (Allan himself, perhaps? That&#039;d be a nice crossover) to recuperate, where it is revealed that the M.C. has caught the TFOR. As the M.C. deals with TFOR, the activist&#039;s friend starts to tell him about the TFOR community, and the M.C realizes that TFORs aren&#039;t all bad. Suddenly doubting his upbringing, he begins to investigate his parents&#039; deaths, eventually finding a human survivor of that skirmish years ago. Then the M.C. finds out that actually it was the splinter cell who killed his parents; he goes back there to kill that leader, and succeeds.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Admittedly I haven&#039;t thought of the very, very ending: perhaps the police arrest him? That would be an interesting ending, despite being sad. &lt;br /&gt;
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:This story, being in the idea stage, is very loose. If you&#039;ve got any good ideas, feel free to tell me! If ShadowWolf is reading this, then his advice would be crucial too! And if Allan is to be featured, I&#039;ll need a bunch of details about him, and probably you&#039;ll have to vet and monitor the dialog. The last time I featured someone else&#039;s character (awesome writer Jetfire&#039;s AT), I think I wrote her in terribly. My fault, of course. I still have trouble believing that I was forgiven for screwing up the Paradise universe. But I digress. &lt;br /&gt;
:If I&#039;ve got your permission to use Allan, I&#039;ll probably be bugging you a lot. Or, we could use that nifty EtherPad to pull the partial collab. Tell me what you think! &lt;br /&gt;
:PS, forgive me for putting a reference to Allan in this story. I couldn&#039;t resist it. I have some problems. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 14:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|The main idea sounds good. Around 2020 is when Allan&#039;s town is Bombed, but after that there&#039;s two years open for anything. 2022ish is when the Rangers contact Allan again, but I haven&#039;t started that story very far, so it could be that they both join. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it were Allan, they could have a talk about losing a parent/parents, and other such discussions. Crossovers are what make a story universe so great, so I don&#039;t mind. Indeed, Lloyd has already used Allan in a [[The_Fool_in_the_Fox|story.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the TFOR, It may have to be that he had the Torch previously, which created tension in the anti-TFOR community, but he didn&#039;t come down with TFOR right away. Then leading up to the assassination, he would be craving weird foods, and during the assassination TFOR could kick in, causing the systemic lock-up and changes.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: /* Question */ The Singaporean has intered the ring!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;how do you delete a page that has no content? I&#039;ve had to modify a title of a story page and removed it&#039;s content, but the title still appears on my author page.&lt;br /&gt;
:Please sign with the &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; - but generally you have to remove all content and then kill any links to it you&#039;ve made. That&#039;ll &amp;quot;orphan&amp;quot; it and then an admin can go and do the actual delete. [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 15:43, 3 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Page deleted, Oberon. (Recent Edits is a wonderful tool!) - in the future, though, please sign all entries on a talk page using the &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; specifier - it&#039;s what gives the nifty user link and timestamp. (and in requests for deletion, could you please include the page name ?) [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 15:48, 3 October 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sitenotice text==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where did you put the text for the donation sitenotice? Normally it&#039;d be at [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice]], but I&#039;m assuming since it&#039;s not there you&#039;ve inserted it into the source code somewhere. [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 20:46, 3 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Never mind, I found it - MonoBook.php, right? I should move it out of that and into sitenotice, it won&#039;t appear for anyone who&#039;s using a different skin otherwise. [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 21:01, 3 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Didn&#039;t know about the Sitenotice bit, so yeah, I did a bit of hacking and dumped it straight into the code from the primary skin. I actually had thought about dumping it directly into the Skin driver, but decided not to. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 21:08, 3 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:There, fixed up. I pulled the code from the source and added a version to the [[Mediawiki:Sitenotice]]. &amp;quot;A Version&amp;quot; because I had to use the same custom tag I created for [[Shifti:Site support]] to do the button. (PayPal kinda requires it be a form with a crapload of hidden fields) &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 21:16, 3 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh. I was just working on that myself. Good to know I was on the right track. :) [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 21:20, 3 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::This is odd. It appears that integral.org is in the spam protection filter, I can&#039;t save [[Main Page]] now. [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 21:37, 3 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Not in any of the spamfilters I installed. It&#039;s not in the central MediaWiki list or in the site-specific list. I&#039;ll look deeper. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 22:00, 3 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[Special:Version]] doesn&#039;t have any spam-blockers besides [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SpamBlacklist SpamBlacklist] and none of its lists have &amp;quot;integral&amp;quot; anywhere in them. So I don&#039;t know what the problem could be... Everything I&#039;ve installed is hacked to not bug people that are in the Admin group about &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;ANYTHING&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, so I&#039;m at a loss as to what the problem could be. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 22:04, 3 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Well, whatever the problem was, it seems to have passed. I should have saved a copy of the error message but I suppose it&#039;s moot if it doesn&#039;t come back. BTW, I hope you don&#039;t mind the little tweaks I made to the sitenotice banner. [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 23:38, 3 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Nah, it works. And I&#039;ve reverted the changes I made, since it wasn&#039;t the cause of Felix&#039;s problem. He saw the Captcha, but apparently either 1) Didn&#039;t know what it was or 2) Couldn&#039;t read it. So I&#039;ve just gone and given the &amp;quot;Author&amp;quot; permissions group a Captcha exception. &amp;amp;mdash; [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 23:49, 3 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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What do you think of the notion of putting a progress bar in the donation request, as demonstrated in [[Shifti:Sandbox]]? Wikipedia does it that way, and it might give people more incentive to donate in order to get rid of the banner. :) [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 01:23, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That&#039;s pretty nifty. Maybe have the bar in red, though :) [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 01:30, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There, added a color parameter. Red&#039;s a bit garish, though, maybe something a bit more pastel? [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 01:43, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I hate that banner!! It offends me, I must destroy it by donating! *snicker* :)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Devin|Devin]] 23:59, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Broken Discussion pages and Captcha errors ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure what&#039;s going on. When I click on the Discussion link on a page that doesn&#039;t have a discussion, it takes me direct to that page&#039;s edit frame (NOT the Discussion page), and I seem to have full edit rights on it. Something seems to have gone wonky along the way.&lt;br /&gt;
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Pre-existing Talk pages seem to work fine (as evidenced here), though when I was trying to post it gave me an &amp;quot;out of captcha&amp;quot; error (When I tried to post it on the Current Events page that is.).&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh and for the TF Types, you may want to add &amp;quot;Plant&amp;quot; (for TF&#039;s that are not animal based, but not quite Dryad based for the mythical category), and &amp;quot;Inanimate&amp;quot; (and maybe even Robotization or however you want to classify it). &lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not quite sure if inanimate would be good enough as a catchall for a &amp;quot;living material&#039; type TF (think X-Men&#039;s Colossus, and Ice Man, who turn into living steel and living ice respectively), or if we might want another type for that as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m working on this, but apparently the &#039;title&#039; parameter isn&#039;t being properly set. When it&#039;s a red-link PHP is getting a URL that looks like &#039;index.php?title=XXX?title=XXX_talk&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1&#039; and it&#039;s seeing that first &#039;title=&#039; and not the second one. I&#039;m trying to figure out how to solve that.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Turned out to have several causes, all related to various problems with a code upgrade and several other problems that cropped up. Since I have yet to see this problem re-occur, I&#039;m going to call it &#039;fixed&#039;. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 20:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Story submission captcha? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just went to post a new story and after I hit the &#039;save page&#039; button, it took me to an edit screen that had:&lt;br /&gt;
     Your edit includes new external links. To help protect against automated spam, please enter the words that appear below in the box&lt;br /&gt;
at the top.  I looked and looked again and couldn&#039;t find any external links in my story.  In fact there was no markup at all once I removed all the tab-indention on the paragraphs.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m all for automated systems blocking automated systems, but this sort of struck me as odd. -- [[User:Leasara|Leasara]] 08:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The regular expressions might have triggered on a non-link URL. But I cannot be certain, as this is the first report I&#039;ve seen of it. (and sorry for the lag in the response) -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 20:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, as long as I&#039;m bugging you guys, any chance of getting an inverted color scheme skin?  Dark text on a light background seems to be more difficult for me to read for any length of time than light text on a dark background. -- [[User:Leasara|Leasara]] 08:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The new &#039;shiftimin&#039; skin took a while to get fully functional, but you could, likely, use &amp;quot;user CSS&amp;quot; to get the same result. Give me a bit of time and I&#039;ll see if I can get a &amp;quot;map&amp;quot; together for the CSS behind the &amp;quot;monobook&amp;quot; skin so you can override it easily. Alternatively you could poke at the CSS yourself, but...&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a page giving a minimal explanation of CSS at [[Help:Custom css]] and we have a page open to user additions about CSS hacks at [[Custom CSS Hacks]]. I&#039;ve been planning to do up a page explaining the various classes of the primary &#039;MonoBook&#039; skin for a while. Guess it&#039;s about time to actually get to work on that. (and again, sorry for the lag in the response) -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 20:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question ==&lt;br /&gt;
...from a nubcake guy. Just asking, is a story allowed to be set in a video game universe ([http://halo.wikia.com/The_Halo_Universe Halo]: w00t!)? &#039;Cos I wanna write a TF story set in there, but I&#039;m not too sure if this is allowed on Shifti. Hope it&#039;s yes, &#039;cos it&#039;s already in progress. Thanks! --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]]&lt;br /&gt;
:We have no restrictions on fan-fiction, but if we receive a take-down notice it will be removed. (I run the server and would be the one facing the legal actions - so I will not fight a DMCA notice unless I am certain it is invalid) -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 13:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Great! Well, I&#039;m pretty sure Bungie, the copyright holder, encourages fan fic, so I think it&#039;s ok...Note &amp;quot;I think&amp;quot;. I&#039;m not sure how they&#039;d react to TF fan fic. Thanks for confirming (and once again for the fave I can&#039;t tell you how much that means to me)! :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Most companies are open to fan-fic, because it helps with the popularity of their product. And you got the &amp;quot;fav&amp;quot; because I saw real promise in the original and in your willingness to take constructive criticism. Every other author in my &amp;quot;new authors to watch&amp;quot; section has shown the same promise, though they haven&#039;t all been available to take the constructive criticism that could be offered. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 20:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi there! This is the noob writer, Drake, again, here for a fresh wave of bother-the-administrator. Sorry to bother you, but here I am. Bothering you. Anyway, I was hoping you could help critique my new story, [[User:WolfyDrake95/Finding Himself|Finding Himself]], which I uploaded a couple of days ago. I got comments from Guvnor of Space and Concerned Reader, but I thought I&#039;d ask for your opinion since you were the only one who seemed actually care about my first, and admittedly not-so-good, story. I do hope you can drop a critique and a comment to help me improve.&lt;br /&gt;
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The above was an email that I sent to you but received no reply for. And also, about the fanfic that this section was initially about: can I upload screenshots? Halo features a Theatre mode in which one can take screenshots of players or NPCs, so I think I could use screenshots to illustrate characters, etc. Anyway, thanks for reading so far! :) --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]], 23:43, 27 June 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hey there, ShadowWolf, it&#039;s Drake again. Hope you could look through my [[User:WolfyDrake95/Letting Go|new story]], in case you haven&#039;t noticed. Yea, it&#039;s not very good, and it took a strange direction halfway through writing (becoming all wierd and sappy), but I hope it would merit, at least, a critic. Of course, if you&#039;re too busy, it&#039;s okay, I&#039;m fine with that. I&#039;m pretty sure critiqueing new writers isn&#039;t exactly the only thing you do ;). &lt;br /&gt;
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:And by the way, if creating new info tags were possible, a &amp;quot;Critique Requested&amp;quot; one might be more effective in garnering critiques than the &amp;quot;Comment&amp;quot; tag that&#039;s provided. And in regards to my Halo-fanfic, is it okay if I put screenshots from in-game to illustrate? It&#039;d be useful for people to understand what I&#039;m saying, since Halo isn&#039;t as well known as Star Wars. &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 12:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sadly I&#039;m going to have to decline a critique on that story. I have tried reading it and found that it did not interest me, sorry.&lt;br /&gt;
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::As to the images... I am unsure about this, as there is content in the texture-maps and such that will wind up as part of the image that are copyright MS/Bungie. However... This would appear to be a case covered by the &amp;quot;Fair Use&amp;quot; exceptions, so unless a lawyer that uses Shifti can answer otherwise, go ahead and upload.&lt;br /&gt;
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::The &#039;critique requested&#039; template itself should be easy. I&#039;ll have to see about that at some point today. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 16:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::All right, I understand if you don&#039;t want to critique. I do know that this isn&#039;t exactly my best story...I suppose every writer has times when he writes bad. Just that I get these times more often. I sorta knew it was already bad, but I guess I needed someone to tell me that it was lousy, right to my face. Ah well. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::As for the pictures, thanks! And for the template, another thanks. You&#039;re one hell of an admin! --[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 04:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::It&#039;s not that it isn&#039;t a good story, Drake. The problem is that when I tried reading it I was not able to get more than a few paragraphs in before I said &amp;quot;this is depressing&amp;quot;&amp;amp;mdash;I do not read anything that I can say that about because I suffer from bipolar disorder. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 11:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Um...then I guess I&#039;m sorry for the misunderstanding. And yeah, I guess I shouldn&#039;t write so many depressing stories; it certainly gets a little boring after a while, and I suppose you&#039;re right in that when people read stories, they probably won&#039;t like those that make them all depressed. I should put a warning on that story one of these days! Anyway, I think I should start on my more normal stories soon. &lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t know what to say about that last bit of what you said because I&#039;m just a kid, and I&#039;m not very smart and I&#039;m terrified that I&#039;ll say something insensitive or insulting or whatever. I do that a lot of times, and the people on the receiving end tend to take offense. Sorry.&lt;br /&gt;
::::On the upside, I&#039;m thinking of writing a PaW story soon. It&#039;s a cool story setting, the Pig and Whistle. Looks like a good setting for assassinations!&lt;br /&gt;
::::Still, thanks for taking the time to clarify the issue. I suddenly feel happy. :) &amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 13:02, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I don&#039;t offend easily&amp;amp;mdash;and if you ever do, you&#039;ll know it. Depressing stories can be good, too, but I stay away from them for medical reasons&amp;amp;mdash;bipolar disorder means I have massive mood swings and reading depressing stuff just feeds into that. There have been several times when I&#039;ve read something really depressing and it had a very bad impact on me.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::On another note&amp;amp;hellip; You are a lot more intelligent and mature than most of the &amp;quot;kids&amp;quot; these days (IMNSHO). Most &amp;quot;kids&amp;quot; these days have almost no idea how to put a sentence together and you are one of the few that I have run into that can take criticism.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::As to a PaW story&amp;amp;hellip; The setting was created, as it says in the description and rules, as a &amp;quot;reboot&amp;quot; of the &amp;quot;Tales from the Blind Pig&amp;quot; setting. Within the last couple of years the &amp;quot;Blind Pig&amp;quot; setting has had numerous arguments over what is and is not &amp;quot;canon&amp;quot; between authors who have seen the setting grow and contributed and people just finding the setting. Because the creator has left it behind it has become something of a &amp;quot;lawless waste&amp;quot; with no real controls and people changing it from what the creator said is actually the reality of the setting. To solve this and make the setting much more internally consistent I asked around and a small group formed to generate the new setting. There is a lot more to the setting than has been revealed or is likely to be openly revealed to anyone anytime soon.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And we tried to define only what was needed to give the setting its own identity so that the people actually interested in writing a story set there could create the setting itself. We only ask that you not set the story outside of the NAR/RoT/Quebec area unless you are actually from that other area. The reason for that is simply that we wish to allow people from those other regions to have control over what, exactly, happened to their regions after the collapse. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 13:45, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|Well Wolfy is from Singapore, so he could open up that side of the world. On a side note, all 14-19 year olds I know on the internet have trouble with basic grammar and spelling when talking normally, so I wouldn&#039;t quite call your writing juvenile.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:29, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RSS Feed? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure if there&#039;s much you can do about this or if I&#039;m using it wrong or expecting the wrong things. But I&#039;ve signed up for the RSS feed on Shifti, and I&#039;m not only getting the new changes soon after they occur, but I also get a bunch of changes that were already reported to me, often multiple times.&lt;br /&gt;
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:That&#039;s the way the RSS feed works. It works similar to how the &#039;Recent Changes&#039; page works by default. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 16:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: True but it seems to be picking up changes it has already reported that haven&#039;t had any actual new changes done. For example, when Bryan was adding/updating the separator graphics, the RSS feed repeated it twice for each change he did, and that seems to happen a lot.&lt;br /&gt;
::--[[User:Jetfire|Jetfire]] 17:54, 29 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I&#039;d look closer - there were, in most cases, two files uploaded/updated - and yes, there is a bug somewhere in the system that is double-logging some events. I haven&#039;t been able to track that one down, though. It&#039;s about time to take a look and see if there is a new version of the code available, however, so I can see if an upgrade fixes the problem. (Most notably it is the new-user stuff that gets double-logged, but I have no idea how this is impacting the RSS feed) -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 18:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I meant that as a general example thouhg; not that in particular.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Another example, I just got an RSS update now. I&#039;ve been watching the feeds and had no recent updates from Shifti since this morning whence I&#039;d gotten Jon&#039;s latest update and a few hours. The update I JUST got says there are 8 new changes, including Jon&#039;s After Hours addition again, Wolfy&#039;s New world addition and 4 entries for the RSS Feed discussion. (Despite this being the 4th entry now). All of the entries have a time of 4:03PM ADT. --[[User:Jetfire|Jetfire]] 19:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Odd... And I&#039;m not really that knowledgeable about the MediaWiki code-base (yes, I can hack on it, but...) I have a feeling that the problem lies in how the system works. I think that it might be compiling a list of all changes within a certain period and sending it out. And if it isn&#039;t keeping a proper time-stamp on the items, that is a violation of the RSS spec, IIRC - since it is then pushing out duplicates without a way for readers to determine that with any degree of certainty. I&#039;ll sign up to the RSS feed myself and see if I can track the problem. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 19:39, 29 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Okay - I&#039;ve got my client signed up to the RSS feed for the [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent changes]] page. Let&#039;s see what this edit does... -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 22:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Now I&#039;ve seen the problem and it sucks. That one previous edit led to a major flood of &#039;31 new edits&#039; in my feed reader. Looks like I was right - it isn&#039;t properly date-tagging the entries. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 22:35, 29 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Looked at the raw XML of the feed and it doesn&#039;t look like there is an error in it - though there might be. Let me go take a look at the RSS specs to see if I can figure out what is missing and/or not being set properly. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 22:39, 29 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Ooooh... I think I just found the cause. Apparently the feed is claiming to be RSS 2.0 but it isn&#039;t putting a stable &amp;amp;lt;guid/&amp;amp;gt; tag on any of the entries. This tag is the method by which most RSS readers decide whether an item is new or not. The feed here does not have them. This is probably an oversight on the part of the person that wrote the code, but I cannot say. I&#039;m going to go check Wikipedia to see if they have it there - because if they don&#039;t then the only reason that feeds of Wikipedia aren&#039;t getting overwhelmed is because of the volume of edits there. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 22:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Changed it to include the link-url as a guid - it should be genuinely unique to a specific page revision. Lets see if this fixes the problem... -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 23:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Okay - I give up (for now) - because that last edit showed up with a massive number of others and the added &amp;lt;guid&amp;gt; tag doesn&#039;t seem to have helped any. Unless, of course, those &amp;amp;lt;guid/&amp;amp;gt; tags need a bit to start showing up... I really don&#039;t know. Might be time for me to look into cleaning out the cache table of the database. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 23:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: And that looks like it did do it after all. Bug report being marked &amp;lt;strong style=&amp;quot;color: red;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;CLOSED/RESOLVED&amp;lt;/strong&amp;gt;. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 23:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Bug not completely resolved. On restart my RSS client has shown a singularly massive flood of repeated messages. This does not make sense to me, as it was not doing this during the testing yesterday - and I am willing to bet it will not show such action today. However it might be that the text I am using to generate the data for the GUID tag is not as stable as I once thought - this bothers me and makes me think I might have to go much deeper into the code for changes. Perhaps as deep as altering the &#039;feed item&#039; class so that it requires the actual ID of the revision so that said ID can be used for the GUID. --[[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:39, 30 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Sadly... It looks like utilizing the Date of the edit might be the only way to uniquely identify them - in combination with the page title, that is. However, I shall not be making those changes at this time. What I shall be doing is finding a way to interact with another developer so that I can be certain this will permanently and fully squash this bug. -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 14:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Not sure what&#039;s going on, but the problem seems to be cropping up again. I&#039;ve gotten RSS feeds telling me of changes that I&#039;ve already gotten before (and before and before)... --[[User:Jetfire|Jetfire]] 17:52, 12 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Has to do with how the URL&#039;s are generated. Since I&#039;m using the URL as the GUID, it looks like there is a periodic shift in them. I have zero clue how to fix it, because I&#039;d have to come up with something that is genuinely unique as an identifier, and I can&#039;t think of anything that would work there. (at least, nothing that is actually available to the feed generator) -- [[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 18:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ShiftiMin-related stuff ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I expect to be poking at the new theme with sharp sticks during the [[TSA-Bash]] anyways, but in the meantime I discovered (largely by happenstance) that if you&#039;re not logged in, there&#039;s no &amp;quot;log in / create account&amp;quot; link in ShiftiMin! I&#039;d say that&#039;s a bug - unless we want to become a &amp;lt;em&amp;gt;really&amp;lt;/em&amp;gt; exclusive club. ;)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Looking pretty decent otherwise; we just need to figure out how to handle the menu organization. (Plus about eleventy billion other pet peeves with which I intend to drive you TOTALLY BATS**T INSANE. Mua ha ha.) --[[User:Viqsi|Viqsi]] 15:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I thought I&#039;d gotten that bug (GAH! Must be related to me changing the user-options bits to a drop-down from the long list it was)&lt;br /&gt;
:Since Shiftimin does not work on versions of IE prior to 8 without a massive javascript hack it is not meant to be used as the primary skin for Shifti. This means that the &#039;missing login/create link&#039; is a very low priority bug.&lt;br /&gt;
:I am currently poking at ideas for another design that is as (or more) minimalistic but is also designed to take full advantage of modern browsers CSS3 support and HTML5. That redesign is not public yet, since it is currently little more than an image in the GIMP.&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, and I already am &#039;TOTALLY BATS**T INSANE&#039; - I just hide it well. So driving me there is a very short trip... And... If you have any ideas at all for changes, just dump them here. I&#039;ll get on top of the ones that are fast/easy to implement immediately.&lt;br /&gt;
:And if you have Fx3.5 available, look at Shifti using the Shiftimin skin. All kinds of nifty little hacks I&#039;ve added that target it. (Okay, so they could probably target Safari/WebKit and Konqueror/KHTML as well... but I&#039;m not going to try and support all the alternative browsers until they agree on the format for the CSS. And Opera &#039;&#039;&#039;STILL&#039;&#039;&#039; does not support even the &#039;border-radius&#039; property or the &#039;box-shadow&#039; or &#039;text-shadow&#039; properties)&lt;br /&gt;
:--[[User:ShadowWolf|ShadowWolf]] 16:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Redirects ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just a heads-up, I noticed that [[PAW General TimeLine]] was linked to from [[Talk:Rebuilding]]. I didn&#039;t check all the redirects so there might be others. In general I think it&#039;s best not to delete redirects left behind by page moves, especially not when the redirect&#039;s name still accurately reflects the content it&#039;s redirecting to - even if you fix all the internal links there&#039;s still the possibility that other pages out on the web point there. [[User:Bryan|Bryan]] 06:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting_Go&amp;diff=12763</id>
		<title>User talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting Go</title>
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		<updated>2009-08-04T14:03:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: yes please.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #006400;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sorry for not being on sooner. I&#039;ve gotten lazy these past few weeks, so I haven&#039;t been on. &lt;br /&gt;
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I skimmed through the story, and the writing, prose, and all that seem good. It&#039;s just not my type of story. I really don&#039;t like reading depressing things, though I may write them on occasion. Sorry I couldn&#039;t be more helpful.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 05:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Nah, it&#039;s okay. Honestly though, I had high hopes for this story when it came up, imagining it to be about as good as [[User:WolfyDrake95/Finding Himself|Finding Himself]]. But when this got halfway through production...it didn&#039;t turn out the way I&#039;d imagined it. Nothing ever does. Still, I didn&#039;t want to abandon another story, so I just finished it and posted. Admittedly lousy, I don&#039;t blame Shadow when he says that it didn&#039;t interest him. In hindsight, I believe too many dumb sad stories get a little boring. I&#039;m planning some &amp;quot;happier&amp;quot; ones, though managing which ones I write is a little tough. I&#039;m grappling with about three or four right now (Last Man Standing, in production, two Xanadu stories, also in production, and a continuation for my Paradise series, which took the back seat recently). Sucks when I get the ideas, but not enough time.&lt;br /&gt;
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:On the upside, though, I&#039;m also planning an assasination story, and I&#039;m sorta thinking...Chakona Space, Pig and Whistle, or the [http://assasinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Assassin%27s_Creed Assassin&#039;s Creed] universe? Tough choice. By the way, does PaW have any big wars or conflict (open hostility and civil unrest works too) directly preceding, or ongoing during, the main storyline, and lots of anti-fur discrimination? These play an important role in my idea, and PaW seems the most promising universe for it, being the one that&#039;s already cut out for furs, and is the one I am most familiar with. I&#039;ll be going through those timelines of yours&amp;amp;mdash;here&#039;s a thanks in advance! :) &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;amp;mdash;[[User:WolfyDrake95|Drake]] 06:49, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|ShadowWolf knows a lot more about PaW than I do, but as far as I remember, the major conflicts were when Canada was sweeping down into the leftovers of the USA. But because you&#039;re from Singapore, you could start a story section over on that side of the world. &lt;br /&gt;
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Here&#039;s some times for conflict:&lt;br /&gt;
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2008-09: the start of the collapse, and first infections.&lt;br /&gt;
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2011: the New Confederacy is formed. They could be the assasinators, as they are a very Anarchistic group.&lt;br /&gt;
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2015: Most fighting stops. NAR stabilizes. New confederacy mostly gone. A splinter cell could cause some trouble.&lt;br /&gt;
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2020: this is when Allan&#039;s hometown is bombed. After this, there is almost no figting in the greater NAR area. Some outlying areas could still have trouble with the Confederacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thats the best I can do for now. If the character is going to be sticking around, I would recommend creating a character timeline page as well. It helps define the character&#039;s traits and description so that it stays constant across stories.&lt;br /&gt;
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PAW needs some more authors, so I look forward to whatever you may come up with. Though by about 2020, most persecution in the north American region seems to have stopped, an earlier assassination plot could be a good setup for a character.}} --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 14:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<updated>2009-08-04T06:45:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: that didn&amp;#039;t work.&lt;/p&gt;
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Makes text green.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Green|test}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
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		<updated>2009-08-04T06:43:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: I&amp;#039;m tired of searching for my html to green my text, so I&amp;#039;m taking the lazy way out. I think i did it right.&lt;/p&gt;
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{{Green|test}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Concerned Reader</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting_Go&amp;diff=12753</id>
		<title>User talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting Go</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://shifti.org/index.php?title=User_talk:WolfyDrake95/Letting_Go&amp;diff=12753"/>
		<updated>2009-08-04T05:59:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Concerned Reader: sorry I haven&amp;#039;t been around. I&amp;#039;m lazy and lame.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #006400;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Sorry for not being on sooner. I&#039;ve gotten lazy these past few weeks, so I haven&#039;t been on. &lt;br /&gt;
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I skimmed through the story, and the writing, prose, and all that seem good. It&#039;s just not my type of story. I really don&#039;t like reading depressing things, though I may write them on occasion. Sorry I couldn&#039;t be more helpful.&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; --[[User:Concerned Reader|Concerned Reader]] 05:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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